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Yep, I think the consensus is "you put it in the right place, but didn't put enough of it on." Like I said in the subject line " what I THINK I learned"! Now I feel a little more confident that I may actually HAVE learned something.

I too have been experimenting with not cleaning my skis except when I absolutely have to. Previous to the klister, the skis had had several layers of Toko red (brights and dark). But it had been really cold the previous week, so I had scraped as much wax off as I could. This resulted in perfect kick on residual red-- in very cold conditions, but going up a continuous 5-mile hill (and rocketing back down, so breakaway speed was much more of a factor than glide).

thanks all! I love ya, man (can I borrow your wax bench?)
Chris

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The snow at Soldier hollow is a firm base of man-made snow, however, they got
about 1/2 inch of fresh snow on top of that overnight before the race.
I waxed perfectly for the conditions at 9:00 AM: a _thin_ layer of
Toko multi-viola
klister, bases cooled, then a layer of Toko dark red hard wax applied
over the
top (to protect the klister from those pesky snow crystals). And the
skis went great. Until the sun came out just before the start at
11:00. That, and I realized that 150 racers doing 4 laps around the
course were going to pretty
quickly take the snow crystals out of the equation, and make it a pure
klister skiing experience.


Chris, I agree with Rob. The pocket doesn't sound right being under
the foot. If you get a chance to look at Fischer's, they have ""
marks for a typical wax pocket. You can see for yourself.

As for getting grip, man that's always tough. I've never been able to
get grip out at our local downhill area and then I talked with a local
skier (Krenz). He said to put it on thick. Also, he joked that he
never cleans his kick wax, so it's thick as hell. So I put it on thick
and wow, great kick and glide. After listening to "a thin layer of
klister and a layer of red" going thicker was the first thing that
came to mind. If you go longer with the wax towards the tip, you can
usually feel when you've gone too far because you loose your glide.
Then the next step is to change wax. I would guess that you should
have been able to get grip with a hard wax (although the wax may not
last), but the tracks may have iced pretty badly with all the skiers.

Jay Wenner





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DIVYep, I think the consensus is "you put it in the right place, but didn't put enough of it on."  Like I said in the subject line " what I THINK I learned"!  Now I feel a little more confident that I may actually HAVE learned something./DIV
DIV /DIV
DIVI too have been experimenting with not cleaning my skis except when I absolutely have to.  Previous to the klister, the skis had had several layers of Toko red (brights and dark).  But it had been really cold the previous week, so I had scraped as much wax off as I could.  This resulted in perfect kick on residual red-- in very cold conditions, but going up a continuous 5-mile hill (and rocketing back down, so breakaway speed was much more of a factor than glide)./DIV
DIV /DIV
DIVthanks all!  I love ya, man (can I borrow your wax bench?)/DIV
DIVChrisBRBRBI"Sly D. Skeez" >/I/B wrote:/DIV
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