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Old December 14th 10, 04:50 PM posted to rec.skiing.nordic
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Default Still a Place for "Old School" Double Pole?

You can do what's comfortable, and in some circumstances, such as slow
snow, the older, more extended slower style that involves the triceps
more is sometimes the way to go. The newer DP style (past 10 years)
emphasizes using core muscles and lats, which are much stronger. The
conceptual key is that skiing is a push-and-glide sport, so getting the
most out of the push phase from the upper body - down through the poles
and down into the legs - makes sense. Think of a 90k DP-fest like Mora:
would you rather depend on core/torso or arm/back muscles? Of course,
no one is doing short, truly explosive strokes every time; one could't
last long that way. Rather, it's a matter of which muscles are used for
greatest efficiency for the situation. The technique difference
becomes clear if you try an explosive DP with short strokes up a short
rise (hands only to hips).

Studies have consistently found a strong correlation between upper body
VO2max (on a treadmill) and race results. So yes, those ab, lat, etc.,
exercises, as well as lots of rollerski and on-snow DP, pay off. One
thing I get a big bang for the time from in this regard, and for general
conditioning, is kettlebells. One just needs to be shown how to use
them properly (and hopefully have a local gym with them).

Gene


On Tue, 14 Dec 2010 07:54:10 -0800 (PST)
Jon wrote:

I still feel unsure on the latest thinking regarding double pole
technique. Pete Vordenberg says: "The initial impact of the poles is
when the most force is applied to the poles and it is applied quickly
– it is when the most power is applied. Wham!"

What I wonder about is for skiers who aren't very powerful, is there
still a place for a double pole technique that has a gentler initial
impact, then gradually increases pressure as you go fairly deep with
upper body?

In other words, has anyone shown the newer, more explosive technique
to be most efficient for all skiers, or do you have to train
specifically to incorporate it into your skiing?

Thanks,

Jon

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