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Rich Heimlich September 1st 05 04:31 PM

Quick release method for lift tickets?
 
Hello all. As the new season is beginning its approach I've been
wondering about one thing that has always annoyed me and that's the
standard lift ticket metal loop that's used to attach it to your
jacket. I prefer to wear layers instead of one thick jacket so I often
need to change lift tickets between layers.

What do others do to address this? The only thing I can think of is
some sort of link that would attach to the jacket but also hook the
ticket loop.

Clearly these must exist and I've just managed to miss them.

On a public forum for Camelback someone responded that Camelback
doesn't allow such solutions and if they saw it, would remove the lift
ticket and re-attach it to a permanent part of my jacket. I told the
poster that I'd allow no such action as that would be tantamount to
Camelback calling me a thief and that's not the sort of relationship I
entered into when I bought a lift ticket.

I simply want the ability to change equipment and to also have a
clean, fast way to remove the tickets at the end of the day when
scissors aren't always handy.

What I'm thinking I need now is a small clip that will loop through a
zipper hole. I could then attach the "wicket" to that and unsnap it
when I need to move it.

VtSkier September 1st 05 05:20 PM

Rich Heimlich wrote:
Hello all. As the new season is beginning its approach I've been
wondering about one thing that has always annoyed me and that's the
standard lift ticket metal loop that's used to attach it to your
jacket. I prefer to wear layers instead of one thick jacket so I often
need to change lift tickets between layers.

What do others do to address this? The only thing I can think of is
some sort of link that would attach to the jacket but also hook the
ticket loop.

Clearly these must exist and I've just managed to miss them.

On a public forum for Camelback someone responded that Camelback
doesn't allow such solutions and if they saw it, would remove the lift
ticket and re-attach it to a permanent part of my jacket. I told the
poster that I'd allow no such action as that would be tantamount to
Camelback calling me a thief and that's not the sort of relationship I
entered into when I bought a lift ticket.


While you are correct in your judgment, you did agree to abide
by the rules of the ski area when you bought your ticket. AND
there ARE enough thieves out there that the rule seems to be
necessary. At least in the East it is. Out west seems to be
a different story. I've had people who were done for the day
approach me to buy their ticket at a cut-rate. Not an unheard
of thing, but this was right in front of the ticket window.

In the East, if you did this in the parking lot and someone
phones it in, a security person will accost you and suggest
that you are stealing services which is a felony and you
should give up your ticket and maybe even buy a new one as
a replacement, which the area won't actually give to you.

In addition you may be asked never to darken the area's doorstep
ever again.

If you cop an attitude, the security person will restrain you
and call the police, who will accompany you to the pokey and
arraign you for a hearing and press charges of "theft of
services", which carries a fair sized fine, more than you
were being asked to pay by buying another ticket.

Now, go invent an easy way to change a ticket from one garment
to another. I'd suggest that you go to a guest services counter
and have them change your ticket to another part of your
anatomy.

An alternative to this is to have a ticket attachment point
on your pants. In all likelihood, you won't shed your pants
WHILE you are skiing. This is done all the time for this very
purpose. I've even seen tickets attached to boot buckles, but
this location is prone to ticket loss.

Now, do I agree with all of this? No! I think a ticket is
for one user to ski for one day. It that user changes in the
middle of the day, who is to say that this is wrong?

I'm particularly sympathetic with couples who have a baby
along where one parent skis in the morning and the other
skis in the afternoon, taking turns with the kid. The ski
area would make both of them buy ticket. I say, let mom
ski in the morning, take her jacket into the guest services
droid and switch the ticket to dad's jacket for the afternoon.

I simply want the ability to change equipment and to also have a
clean, fast way to remove the tickets at the end of the day when
scissors aren't always handy.

What I'm thinking I need now is a small clip that will loop through a
zipper hole. I could then attach the "wicket" to that and unsnap it
when I need to move it.


[email protected] September 1st 05 05:32 PM

Some skiers attach their lift tickets to a boot buckle. I have yet to
meet a skier who planned on changing boots in the middle of the day.


Walt September 1st 05 06:31 PM

wrote:

Some skiers attach their lift tickets to a boot buckle. I have yet to
meet a skier who planned on changing boots in the middle of the day.

I have. First day on the new pair of boots, bring along your trusty old
boots just in case.

//-Walt

[email protected] September 1st 05 07:13 PM

Walt wrote:
I have. First day on the new pair of boots, bring along your trusty old
boots just in case.


Ouch! I feel sorry for you. Your old boots might not fit the bindings
anymore. I break in my new boots for at least two days before I use
them on the slopes. I don't know if that was the reason, but my boots
have always been comfortable. At the very least, I would find out
ahead of time whether or not the boots were a good fit so I don't need
to plan on changing.

Getting back to the original subject, some ski areas suggest attaching
the lift tickets to the pants or other "permanent" clothing, and
discourage attaching them to jackets.


Mike Treseler September 1st 05 07:17 PM

Rich Heimlich wrote:
I prefer to wear layers instead of one thick jacket so I often
need to change lift tickets between layers.
What do others do to address this?


A keyring works for me.

-- Mike Treseler

VtSkier September 1st 05 07:19 PM

wrote:
Walt wrote:

I have. First day on the new pair of boots, bring along your trusty old
boots just in case.



Ouch! I feel sorry for you. Your old boots might not fit the bindings
anymore. I break in my new boots for at least two days before I use
them on the slopes. I don't know if that was the reason, but my boots
have always been comfortable. At the very least, I would find out
ahead of time whether or not the boots were a good fit so I don't need
to plan on changing.

Getting back to the original subject, some ski areas suggest attaching
the lift tickets to the pants or other "permanent" clothing, and
discourage attaching them to jackets.


A good fitting pair of boots will always have some pressure
points. IMO it is impossible to get a pair of boots
comfortable on the fist go from the shop. Pretty good,
yes, but far from perfect. I've suffered badly from time
to time because I didn't have the sense to bring the old
boots along.

I do have the sense, however, to have at least one pair
of skis set up with rental/demo type bindings so that
changing boots could be easy. I've changed boots for
other reasons than fitting.

I've changed from performance boots in the morning to
randonee boots in the afternoon because I was going to
be walking around quite a lot and the randos fit and
grip the ground better than standard DIN boots, and
will fit into my skis with rental bindings.

VtSkier

Richard Henry September 1st 05 07:30 PM


wrote in message
oups.com...
Walt wrote:
I have. First day on the new pair of boots, bring along your trusty

old
boots just in case.


Ouch! I feel sorry for you. Your old boots might not fit the bindings
anymore. I break in my new boots for at least two days before I use
them on the slopes. I don't know if that was the reason, but my boots
have always been comfortable. At the very least, I would find out
ahead of time whether or not the boots were a good fit so I don't need
to plan on changing.

Getting back to the original subject, some ski areas suggest attaching
the lift tickets to the pants or other "permanent" clothing, and
discourage attaching them to jackets.


I have changed my ticket from long parts to shorts on nice spring days, at
the ticket booth with their approval.




lal_truckee September 1st 05 08:32 PM

VtSkier wrote:

I'm particularly sympathetic with couples who have a baby
along where one parent skis in the morning and the other
skis in the afternoon, taking turns with the kid. The ski
area would make both of them buy ticket. I say, let mom
ski in the morning, take her jacket into the guest services
droid and switch the ticket to dad's jacket for the afternoon.


Around here there's a Mom and Pop ticket arrangement just for this
purpose; trading off is trivial, and a baby sitting area with amenities
is provided for the partner not skiing. (When I said "Mom and Pop" I
didn't mean to exclude non-traditional baby raising couplings - they
also are provided for.)

lal_truckee September 1st 05 08:35 PM

Richard Henry wrote:

I have changed my ticket from long parts to shorts on nice spring days, at
the ticket booth with their approval.


Ah. Was the change from "long parts" to "shorts" occasioned by
uncontrollable shrinkage due to cold; or possibly (if the "long parts"
were long enough) due to exposure?


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