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Roger October 29th 04 07:36 AM

UK - French Alps on TGV
 
Eurostar don't seem to be running direct services to Moutier /Bourg
around Christmas but the web site shows Eurostar to Paris then TGV.

Is this a new way ? Has anyone done it? if so - what was it like?
would you recommend it ? How would it be with a 1 year old?

Thanks

PG October 29th 04 07:57 AM


"Roger" wrote in message
m...
| Eurostar don't seem to be running direct services to Moutier /Bourg
| around Christmas but the web site shows Eurostar to Paris then TGV.
|
| Is this a new way ? Has anyone done it? if so - what was it like?
| would you recommend it ? How would it be with a 1 year old?

There's seems to be availability on Dec 23rd and 24th on the direct BSM
route, and via Paris on the 30th etc. It's a bit of a pain crossing
Paris with gear and kids between the two stations - definitely not
walking distance, even without excess baggage! It's a couple of stops on
the 'RER' I think.

Pete - SNOWeSCAPE Bourg St Maurice
http://bsm.alpesprovence.net



Ace October 29th 04 08:35 AM

On 29 Oct 2004 00:36:52 -0700, (Roger)
wrote:

Eurostar don't seem to be running direct services to Moutier /Bourg
around Christmas but the web site shows Eurostar to Paris then TGV.

Is this a new way ?


No.

Has anyone done it?


Yes, lots of people do it all the time.

if so - what was it like?


Couchette cars, with six beds to a compartment - bottom ones double up
as daytime seats, with the seat back swivelling upward to form a
middle bunk. There's a nice man comes round and sets up the bed for
you, and they come with a sheet/blanket and a pillow+case.

would you recommend it ?


There are worse ways of getting there, certainly. The only 'hassle' is
changinf stations in Paris, although this is not always a requirement
- check the details. Even if it is, it's only a couple of stops on the
metro, so not too bad.

How would it be with a 1 year old?


You may not be popular with your fellow travellers, but otherwise, why
not?

--
Ace (brucedotrogers a.t rochedotcom)
Ski Club of Great Britain -
http://www.skiclub.co.uk
All opinions expressed are personal and in no way represent those of the Ski Club.

Paul Schofield October 29th 04 08:39 AM


"PG" wrote in message
...

"Roger" wrote in message
m...
| Eurostar don't seem to be running direct services to Moutier /Bourg
| around Christmas but the web site shows Eurostar to Paris then TGV.
|
| Is this a new way ? Has anyone done it? if so - what was it like?
| would you recommend it ? How would it be with a 1 year old?

There's seems to be availability on Dec 23rd and 24th on the direct BSM
route, and via Paris on the 30th etc. It's a bit of a pain crossing
Paris with gear and kids between the two stations - definitely not
walking distance, even without excess baggage! It's a couple of stops on
the 'RER' I think.

Pete - SNOWeSCAPE Bourg St Maurice
http://bsm.alpesprovence.net



www.raileurope.co.uk website says that there is no need to change stations
in Paris, but this route is only available on the 19 or 26 Dec


--
Paul Schofield

Time flies like an arrow
Fruit flies like a banana



Roger Moss October 29th 04 09:49 AM

Eurostar runs into Gare du Nord, with a quick platform change to onward Snow
Train to the Alps, the trains serving Chambéry, Albertville, Moutiers, Aime
la Plagne, Landry and Bourg St Maurice.

RailEurope is offering deals on 19th (£314 for 2 people) & 26 December (£358
for two), plus 2nd Jan (£224 for two) - www.raileurope.co.uk 08708 30 44 94

Bon ski...!

RM


"Roger" wrote in message
m...
Eurostar don't seem to be running direct services to Moutier /Bourg
around Christmas but the web site shows Eurostar to Paris then TGV.

Is this a new way ? Has anyone done it? if so - what was it like?
would you recommend it ? How would it be with a 1 year old?

Thanks




Roger October 29th 04 04:38 PM


if so - what was it like?


Couchette cars, with six beds to a compartment - bottom ones double up
as daytime seats, with the seat back swivelling upward to form a
middle bunk. There's a nice man comes round and sets up the bed for
you, and they come with a sheet/blanket and a pillow+case.

would you recommend it ?


There are worse ways of getting there, certainly. The only 'hassle' is
changinf stations in Paris, although this is not always a requirement
- check the details. Even if it is, it's only a couple of stops on the
metro, so not too bad.

How would it be with a 1 year old?


You may not be popular with your fellow travellers, but otherwise, why
not?


I've done the overnight Couchette train thing a few times - the one
I'm talking about goes in the day.

And I thought the TGV trains were modern / fast / sexy things, not the
40 year old sleeper trains?

Andy Petersen October 31st 04 09:36 PM

Sorry - I may be losing the plot on this thread but why don't you consider
driving? Much more flexible.

I would have thought that with a 1 year old this was your best bet - no
moving bags around or worrying about changing platform or stations - no
annoyed fellow travellers - stop when you want for as long as you want -just
get in the car and go!

Andy

"Roger Moss" wrote in message
...
Eurostar runs into Gare du Nord, with a quick platform change to onward

Snow
Train to the Alps, the trains serving Chambéry, Albertville, Moutiers,

Aime
la Plagne, Landry and Bourg St Maurice.

RailEurope is offering deals on 19th (£314 for 2 people) & 26 December

(£358
for two), plus 2nd Jan (£224 for two) - www.raileurope.co.uk 08708 30 44

94

Bon ski...!

RM


"Roger" wrote in message
m...
Eurostar don't seem to be running direct services to Moutier /Bourg
around Christmas but the web site shows Eurostar to Paris then TGV.

Is this a new way ? Has anyone done it? if so - what was it like?
would you recommend it ? How would it be with a 1 year old?

Thanks








Roger November 1st 04 07:46 AM

"Andy Petersen" wrote in message ...
Sorry - I may be losing the plot on this thread but why don't you consider
driving? Much more flexible.

I would have thought that with a 1 year old this was your best bet - no
moving bags around or worrying about changing platform or stations - no
annoyed fellow travellers - stop when you want for as long as you want -just
get in the car and go!

Andy



Hi Andy

We are considering it - just need to make an informed decision! All of
us are flexible (i.e. self employed) so can leave a day early and
drive down fairly leisurely at our own pace so driving does appeal.

However, we'd have to hire an MPV which adds another £600 to the bill.

Also - the irony of a one year old is that they're a fraction of the
size of the rest of us but when you consider the car seat, push chair,
cot, changing mat, a million nappies they take over the car!!

Roger Moss November 1st 04 04:19 PM

Fear not: Snowtrains are all high-speed units, i.e. TGVs

RM

"Roger Moss" wrote in message
...
Eurostar runs into Gare du Nord, with a quick platform change to onward
Snow Train to the Alps, the trains serving Chambéry, Albertville,
Moutiers, Aime la Plagne, Landry and Bourg St Maurice.

RailEurope is offering deals on 19th (£314 for 2 people) & 26 December
(£358 for two), plus 2nd Jan (£224 for two) - www.raileurope.co.uk 08708
30 44 94

Bon ski...!

RM


"Roger" wrote in message
m...
Eurostar don't seem to be running direct services to Moutier /Bourg
around Christmas but the web site shows Eurostar to Paris then TGV.

Is this a new way ? Has anyone done it? if so - what was it like?
would you recommend it ? How would it be with a 1 year old?

Thanks






Ace November 2nd 04 04:22 PM

On 29 Oct 2004 09:38:10 -0700, (Roger)
wrote:


if so - what was it like?


Couchette cars, with six beds to a compartment - bottom ones double up


I've done the overnight Couchette train thing a few times - the one
I'm talking about goes in the day.


Ahh, well I'm not sure what your question is then - clearly there are
trains, and they'll have seats on them, just like any other train, I
imagine. And

And I thought the TGV trains were modern / fast / sexy things, not the
40 year old sleeper trains?


Well the sleeper cars I've used are still the same as they ever were.
Overnight they don't need, or indeed want, to go fast so I guess
there's no reason to update them

--
Ace (brucedotrogers a.t rochedotcom)
Ski Club of Great Britain -
http://www.skiclub.co.uk
All opinions expressed are personal and in no way represent those of the Ski Club.


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