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[email protected] January 30th 14 05:33 PM

Waxing Problem
 
Hej,
Any recommendations on how best to deal with this situation. You start
off on icy conditions so you put on Klister. How do you adapt when you
move on to softer snow without cleaning everything off. When touring you
can mix all sorts of waxes and function but what can you put on top of
Klister.
Thanks

[email protected] January 31st 14 03:25 AM

Waxing Problem
 
Hard wax over klister is one common approach. I tend to do it in
advance if there's any chance of loose snow in the tracks or even in the
skate lane. This is a layering process, so make sure the klister is
hard by cooling the skis outside first for 20-30 minutes or more,
depending on the temperature. Leaving hard wax outside and applying
it there isn't a bad idea either, so it's not soft. If it is, you'll end
up rubbing it in so hard to get the desired smoothness that friction
will heat and soften the klister, thus mixes the two waxes. After
that, let the skis cool again for a few minutes and then go out and
have fun, carrying the appropriate hard wax with you.

Gene

On Thu, 30 Jan 2014 18:33:02 +0000
" wrote:

Hej,
Any recommendations on how best to deal with this situation. You
start off on icy conditions so you put on Klister. How do you adapt
when you move on to softer snow without cleaning everything off. When
touring you can mix all sorts of waxes and function but what can you
put on top of Klister.
Thanks


[email protected] January 31st 14 03:29 AM

Waxing Problem
 
In afterthought, I assumed you meant loose, softer snow. If you meant
warm softer snow, then I would either suffer through it or head back
and get a pair of no-wax skis.

Gene

On Thu, 30 Jan 2014 21:25:51 -0700
wrote:

Hard wax over klister is one common approach. I tend to do it in
advance if there's any chance of loose snow in the tracks or even in
the skate lane. This is a layering process, so make sure the klister
is hard by cooling the skis outside first for 20-30 minutes or more,
depending on the temperature. Leaving hard wax outside and applying
it there isn't a bad idea either, so it's not soft. If it is, you'll
end up rubbing it in so hard to get the desired smoothness that
friction will heat and soften the klister, thus mixes the two waxes.
After that, let the skis cool again for a few minutes and then go out
and have fun, carrying the appropriate hard wax with you.

Gene

On Thu, 30 Jan 2014 18:33:02 +0000
" wrote:

Hej,
Any recommendations on how best to deal with this situation. You
start off on icy conditions so you put on Klister. How do you adapt
when you move on to softer snow without cleaning everything off.
When touring you can mix all sorts of waxes and function but what
can you put on top of Klister.
Thanks


Terje Mathisen[_3_] January 31st 14 08:13 AM

Waxing Problem
 
wrote:
Hej,
Any recommendations on how best to deal with this situation. You start
off on icy conditions so you put on Klister. How do you adapt when you
move on to softer snow without cleaning everything off. When touring you
can mix all sorts of waxes and function but what can you put on top of
Klister.


As you said in the subject: This is a waxing problem (it is also a
wexing problems...)! :-)

In reality, if you are backcountry touring and breaking trail, starting
out at lower altitude with wet snow (red klister) and then you get fresh
dry powder snow at higher altitude, you pretty much have to scrape off
as much klister as possible, then cover the remains with blue extra or
some other regular wax.

BT,DT. Many, many times.

Particularly "fun" back in the wooden ski days.

Terje

--
- Terje.Mathisen at tmsw.no
"almost all programming can be viewed as an exercise in caching"

[email protected] January 31st 14 10:23 PM

Waxing Problem
 
On 31/01/2014 04:29, wrote:
In afterthought, I assumed you meant loose, softer snow. If you meant
warm softer snow, then I would either suffer through it or head back
and get a pair of no-wax skis.

Gene

On Thu, 30 Jan 2014 21:25:51 -0700
wrote:

Hard wax over klister is one common approach. I tend to do it in
advance if there's any chance of loose snow in the tracks or even in
the skate lane. This is a layering process, so make sure the klister
is hard by cooling the skis outside first for 20-30 minutes or more,
depending on the temperature. Leaving hard wax outside and applying
it there isn't a bad idea either, so it's not soft. If it is, you'll
end up rubbing it in so hard to get the desired smoothness that
friction will heat and soften the klister, thus mixes the two waxes.
After that, let the skis cool again for a few minutes and then go out
and have fun, carrying the appropriate hard wax with you.

Gene

On Thu, 30 Jan 2014 18:33:02 +0000
" wrote:

Hej,
Any recommendations on how best to deal with this situation. You
start off on icy conditions so you put on Klister. How do you adapt
when you move on to softer snow without cleaning everything off.
When touring you can mix all sorts of waxes and function but what
can you put on top of Klister.
Thanks

Loose softer.
We are going back to a place where the temperature will be -10C or less.
The last time we were there we started off in icy well skied tracks
using klister then climbed up to softer snow (very fine like spindrift),
balled up something terrible. This fine stuff was funny. Even if you
started off with blue extra you would ball up unless your wax was well
polished. Good advice to make sure your equipment and waxes are at
outside air temperatures - made that mistake before

gr[_4_] February 5th 14 01:58 AM

Waxing Problem
 
On 1/30/2014 1:33 PM, wrote:
Hej,
Any recommendations on how best to deal with this situation. You start
off on icy conditions so you put on Klister. How do you adapt when you
move on to softer snow without cleaning everything off. When touring you
can mix all sorts of waxes and function but what can you put on top of
Klister.
Thanks

I use Start Grip Tape- self adjusting for temperature and type of snow.
Works like magic!



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