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Hey all,

I used to post here a lot from around 1995 - 2003,
or thereabouts. I've still been snowboarding, but
spending much more time in the water, working
at my desk etc. Anyone still here from back then?
I know a bunch of the names, but I'm at work and
can't remember off top of my head. Dave Roberts?

Anyway, I'm starting a little side project - my own
snowboard company:

Rise Snowboards Inc.
Vermont, USA
2008 - Prototype
2009 - Production
- Take the high road! -

I have contacts at Burton going way back, know
Hayes Bros. in VT, which also has a press, and
this is my brother's company:

http://www.selectdesign.com

Clients include Burton, Cannondale, Timberland,
Ben & Jerry's, Pepsi, US Snowboarding, etc., etc.

So as you can see, I have the groundwork in
place. I'm still doing my regular freelance work,
I'm just getting started on this. Not sure how far
it will go, but I'll have t-shirts and stickers this
year, and will at least build my prototype:

Rise Arise - 162cm, directional, wood core,
"step cap", top notch sintered base, wrap around
edges, maybe some kevlar or other lightweight
materials, titanuim???? More specs available.

There will also be the ladies' board:

Rise Rose - 144cm, etc.

I have logos, etc.

Just thought I'd throw this out in case anyone
has suggestions, comments etc. I'll probably
just give a couple boards to friends, who rip
in park and freeride and see where it goes from
there. This group has always been great, and
I've missed it the last few years.

Also, put up a bunch of links on my YouTube
page, including Mervin, TB 8 and other snowboard
trailers...enjoy!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TNioEUwGvzs
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-C0PCZ99k08

There's no sound on some of them for some
reason. Others, including a bunch of surf clips
on the site.

Anyway, thanks in advance for any advice. I hope
you're all getting ready for winter here in the No.
Hemisphere.

Cheers!

-jw
--
jsw's new england surf page
http://the_urchin.home.comcast.net/index.html
surf photos - surf words - surf art - all new england!

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In article . com,
jw wrote:

Hey all,

I used to post here a lot from around 1995 - 2003,
or thereabouts. I've still been snowboarding, but
spending much more time in the water, working
at my desk etc. Anyone still here from back then?
I know a bunch of the names, but I'm at work and
can't remember off top of my head. Dave Roberts?

Jeez, just checked the rest of the posts. Traffic has certainly
lightened up a bit here, eh??? I leave for a while and this place goes
to pot!!! ;-)

Anyway, would welcome feedback if anyone has it...

Thanks again,

-jw
--
rise snowboards inc.
vermont, usa
t-shirts and stickers - 2007
prototype - 2008
production - 2009
take the high road!

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On Mon, 01 Oct 2007 14:03:31 GMT, jw wrote:

In article . com,
jw wrote:

Hey all,

I used to post here a lot from around 1995 - 2003,
or thereabouts. I've still been snowboarding, but
spending much more time in the water, working
at my desk etc. Anyone still here from back then?
I know a bunch of the names, but I'm at work and
can't remember off top of my head. Dave Roberts?

Jeez, just checked the rest of the posts. Traffic has certainly
lightened up a bit here, eh??? I leave for a while and this place goes
to pot!!! ;-)

Hey, it's that time of year. This place brightens up in the northern
winter, but some of us get bored with the weeners turning up and
asking question we were bored with in 1995.

Dave Roberts is still around, but posts under a different name now.
I'll leave it to him to introduce himself.
--
Champ

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In article ,
Champ wrote:

On Mon, 01 Oct 2007 14:03:31 GMT, jw wrote:

In article . com,
jw wrote:

Hey all,

I used to post here a lot from around 1995 - 2003,
or thereabouts. I've still been snowboarding, but
spending much more time in the water, working
at my desk etc. Anyone still here from back then?
I know a bunch of the names, but I'm at work and
can't remember off top of my head. Dave Roberts?

Jeez, just checked the rest of the posts. Traffic has certainly
lightened up a bit here, eh??? I leave for a while and this place goes
to pot!!! ;-)

Hey, it's that time of year. This place brightens up in the northern
winter, but some of us get bored with the weeners turning up and
asking question we were bored with in 1995.

Dave Roberts is still around, but posts under a different name now.
I'll leave it to him to introduce himself.

Champ, remember you well. You ride a bike, too, right??? Dave, you were
always a big help. Glad you're keeping the faith.

Thanks,

-jw

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On Mon, 01 Oct 2007 13:52:30 GMT, jw
allegedly wrote:

I know a bunch of the names, but I'm at work and
can't remember off top of my head. Dave Roberts?

waves

I'm still around, just using a different posting name these days.

Hope I was nice to you. :-) I'm having problems trying to place you
though.

Good luck with the enterprise.

- Dave.

--
The only powder to get high on, falls from the sky.
http://www.vpas.org.uk/ - Snowboarding the worlds pow pow.
Donek Sasquatch 162, Prior Pow 181, Burton Canyon 162

The Snowboard FAQ lives here - http://www.vpas.fsnet.co.uk/rssFAQ/

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On Mon, 01 Oct 2007 14:03:31 GMT, jw
allegedly wrote:

Jeez, just checked the rest of the posts. Traffic has certainly
lightened up a bit here, eh??? I leave for a while and this place goes
to pot!!! ;-)

As Champ says, it's partly down to the season and this group being
primarily subsribed to by North Americans and Europeans.

However, the advent of cheesy web-based forums has for some reason meant
a migration of people. For the masses, the ability to pimp up your
avatar, include graphical signatures and graphical smileys means much
more than the pure speed afforded by usenet and killfiles from suitable
clients.

Plus, really, where's snowboarding going? The large technological
innovations of the 90s are complete, and now stuff's just being refined
to eek out that extra 0.001%. The rest is just marketing. With that,
there just doesn't seem to be the same breadth of topics to talk about.
We haven't even had a wacky concept to deride and laugh at for a while.

Come winter, we'll get the "is this board good for me" posts, which
can't be answered in the FAQ, and only get a discussion if a couple of
the regulars have tried it. Many posts go unanswered, not because we're
rude, but because the number of people reading has dropped, and out of
those, no-one's ridden the board being queried.

For me, I'm set with my gear, and haven't bothered trying a different
board for almost 2 seasons now. The last one being a Fish which I
borrowed off a mate for an hour. Hardly an exhaustive test though.

That's probably the most I've posted in ages! ;)

- Dave.

--
The only powder to get high on, falls from the sky.
http://www.vpas.org.uk/ - Snowboarding the worlds pow pow.
Donek Sasquatch 162, Prior Pow 181, Burton Canyon 162

The Snowboard FAQ lives here - http://www.vpas.fsnet.co.uk/rssFAQ/

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Switters wrote:
On Mon, 01 Oct 2007 14:03:31 GMT, jw
allegedly wrote:

Jeez, just checked the rest of the posts. Traffic has certainly
lightened up a bit here, eh??? I leave for a while and this place goes
to pot!!! ;-)

As Champ says, it's partly down to the season and this group being
primarily subsribed to by North Americans and Europeans.

I know, I want to go to NZ to surf and snowboard
one day.

You were never mean to me...I was probably mean
to a few people once or twice, but didn't really mean
it...;)

I know you from when you were briefly on alt.surfing
as well (Foon is still there, Dave Blake, T. Keener,
Surfer Bob, and a bunch of others. But swort of like
here, traffic can go way down, in part due to as you
say Web-based forums, which can suck for the
reasons you stated, even though content can be
really good. It's just hugely inefficient compared with
Usenet. (Google aint that grewat either, and I use
a newsreader usually, just this when at my desk
sometimes). I think those of us who got on here
back in the day (me, 1996?) still use the news-
readers....no problem if people don't, whatever works
for ya.

I've been spending WAY more time in the water
the last ten years or so than snowboarding, but I still
have my ol' trusty Burton A.deck (in great shape considering
it's age.) I put probably 50 days on it when I worked
at Mount Snow (1995 - 1996). Then loaned it to my
brother who used it for a year or two (learned on it). I
still also have my 2004 Santa Cruz big mountain board -
I think it's called the W164. I'm only 5'9" and about
160lbs, but the board is really maneuverable, and
fast as sh*t.

Not sure I posted this earlier, but you can see the logos
he

http://the_urchin.home.comcast.net/photos/logos1.html

Me on the old A.deck:

http://the_urchin.home.comcast.net/photos/snow.html

Not trying to promote any one company or anything, just
FYI.

Anyway, good to hear from you again, and others. I'll
read rest of your reply when I have more time...I'm on
deadline for work right now. Saving msgs. I don't get
to right away.

btw, I hope I can pull this snowboard thing off. Burton
is a client of my brother's co., etc. I'm just doing it in
my spare time as I also do my regular freelance work
to keep food on the table.

Talk to you later,

-jw
--
rise snowboards inc.
vermont usa
t-shirts and stickers - 2007
prototype - 2008
production - 2009

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btw Dave et al., I was back then.
I used to remember that chick punk rock shred
grrl (actually know her, you out there, hope you're
doing well!). Other people too...

thx,

-jw

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On Tue, 02 Oct 2007 14:03:24 GMT, jw allegedly
wrote:

You were never mean to me...I was probably mean
to a few people once or twice, but didn't really mean
it...;)

There were quite a few flames... thinking back, they were quite amusing.

I know you from when you were briefly on alt.surfing
as well (Foon is still there, Dave Blake, T. Keener,
Surfer Bob, and a bunch of others.

Ha! Now that's a blast from the past. Talk about a volatile group, but it was
funny as hell. I've not been there for a very long time. Still surfing
though, just not so much.

I've been spending WAY more time in the water
the last ten years or so than snowboarding, but I still
have my ol' trusty Burton A.deck (in great shape considering

I'm suprised that thing hasn't rusted away. Must be 10 years old by now!

- Dave.

--
The only powder to get high on, falls from the sky.
http://www.vpas.org.uk/ - Snowboarding the worlds pow pow.
Donek Sasquatch 162, Prior Pow 181, Burton Canyon 162

The Snowboard FAQ lives here - http://www.vpas.fsnet.co.uk/rssFAQ/

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On Tue, 2 Oct 2007 12:44:59 +0000 (UTC), Switters
wrote:

However, the advent of cheesy web-based forums has for some reason meant
a migration of people. For the masses, the ability to pimp up your
avatar, include graphical signatures and graphical smileys means much
more than the pure speed afforded by usenet and killfiles from suitable
clients.

Web forums suck. LOL!

etc etc...

Plus, really, where's snowboarding going? The large technological
innovations of the 90s are complete, and now stuff's just being refined
to eek out that extra 0.001%. The rest is just marketing. With that,
there just doesn't seem to be the same breadth of topics to talk about.
We haven't even had a wacky concept to deride and laugh at for a while.

Yep, I think boarding has grown up! I've been on a couple of trips
with skiers or mixed groups recently, and it's completely unremarkable
- no one cares whether you're on one plank or two.

Come winter, we'll get the "is this board good for me" posts, which
can't be answered in the FAQ, and only get a discussion if a couple of
the regulars have tried it. Many posts go unanswered, not because we're
rude, but because the number of people reading has dropped, and out of
those, no-one's ridden the board being queried.

For me, I'm set with my gear, and haven't bothered trying a different
board for almost 2 seasons now. The last one being a Fish which I
borrowed off a mate for an hour. Hardly an exhaustive test though.

Pretty much the same for me. I've got my gear, I know what I like, so
there's less stuff to talk about here. What would be useful would be
conversations on places to go, etc, but as most of the members of this
group are based in the US (and, it seems to me, most US riders just go
to their local hill), that's not so handy for a world wide
perspective. I use rec.skiiing.resorts.europe for a lot of that sort
of thing now.

--
Champ
neal at champ dot org dot uk