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What is Soll Like when there is only artificial snow?
We got back from Soll just over a week ago. It was our first ski holiday for
about 10 years and a return to Soll after 25 years. The snow is fantastic this year, as good or even better than in 1980 and 1981. We'd like to book to go back next year, but I realise how lucky we've been this year. What has Soll and the Skiwelt been like in recent years when they have had to rely on artificial snow? We'd plan on going either the first or third week in January. Cheers Mike |
It has a very poor snow record, but, at the moment, it is doing very
well. They have put in a lot of snow cannons, but it is very low, and if it is too warm, the canons dont work either. Apart form that, arttifical snow is the same the world over, firm. I would never pre book Soll. It is too risky. I would go last minute instead. |
"fat_boy" wrote in message ups.com... It has a very poor snow record, but, at the moment, it is doing very well. They have put in a lot of snow cannons, but it is very low, and if it is too warm, the canons dont work either. Apart form that, arttifical snow is the same the world over, firm. I would never pre book Soll. It is too risky. I would go last minute instead. Hmm.. I really don't know Söll, except for this year which has been excellent but I don't think your opinion is correct on this one...Söll is not particularly low for this part of the Alps. In fact, Söll is right near Kitzbühel which is one of the better resorts of the world. There are only a few resorts in this area that are much higher than 2000m which would be the glacier resorts of Stubai and Hintertux. There are loads around 2000m - Seefeld, Zell am See, the whole Skiwelt region which includes Söll (largest interconnected resort in Austria), St Johann, Kitzbühel, the many resorts in the mountains around Innsbruck etc etc.. the list just goes on.. if you are going to say that 1800m (the height of Söll at the top) is low, then you would have to discount almost all of Austria. Austrian resorts are a lot lower than resorts out to the west of the Alps but this doesn't mean that they get less snowfall. It is normally colder in the east and reliable snow can be found most times under 1000 metres (which certainly wouldn't be the case in France for example). I prefer this because at least you can get some decent snow amoungst the tree's. I was at Zell am See a few years ago, its in the same area and it was early season and although it was quite icey at the bottom there was still a lot of snow (at 700m). This year there has been snow lying in Munich since the first snow at the end of November (and its snowing now). |
Hi,
my experience is: Soll may be without snow in the valley but there will be definitely snow up on the mountain in January. If there is no snow, you won't have satisfying conditions anywhere in Tyrol. And to comment AH: we have a nice continuous Winter this year (I am located in Munich as AH), but it is not very unusual. I don't remember more than one or two seasons in the last twenty years in which it was impossible to ski down to the valley in january. Florian Mike Dodds wrote: We got back from Soll just over a week ago. It was our first ski holiday for about 10 years and a return to Soll after 25 years. The snow is fantastic this year, as good or even better than in 1980 and 1981. We'd like to book to go back next year, but I realise how lucky we've been this year. What has Soll and the Skiwelt been like in recent years when they have had to rely on artificial snow? We'd plan on going either the first or third week in January. Cheers Mike |
Thanks Florian and AH,
I think I might take advantage of early booking discounts. Mike "Florian Anwander" wrote in message ... Hi, my experience is: Soll may be without snow in the valley but there will be definitely snow up on the mountain in January. If there is no snow, you won't have satisfying conditions anywhere in Tyrol. And to comment AH: we have a nice continuous Winter this year (I am located in Munich as AH), but it is not very unusual. I don't remember more than one or two seasons in the last twenty years in which it was impossible to ski down to the valley in january. Florian Mike Dodds wrote: We got back from Soll just over a week ago. It was our first ski holiday for about 10 years and a return to Soll after 25 years. The snow is fantastic this year, as good or even better than in 1980 and 1981. We'd like to book to go back next year, but I realise how lucky we've been this year. What has Soll and the Skiwelt been like in recent years when they have had to rely on artificial snow? We'd plan on going either the first or third week in January. Cheers Mike |
If you are going the first or third week of January, I wouldn't worry too
much unless you want something quite specific.. it is one of the low season periods so there will be plenty of choice and maybe even some very cheap late deals closer to the time.. "Mike Dodds" wrote in message ... Thanks Florian and AH, I think I might take advantage of early booking discounts. Mike "Florian Anwander" wrote in message ... Hi, my experience is: Soll may be without snow in the valley but there will be definitely snow up on the mountain in January. If there is no snow, you won't have satisfying conditions anywhere in Tyrol. And to comment AH: we have a nice continuous Winter this year (I am located in Munich as AH), but it is not very unusual. I don't remember more than one or two seasons in the last twenty years in which it was impossible to ski down to the valley in january. Florian Mike Dodds wrote: We got back from Soll just over a week ago. It was our first ski holiday for about 10 years and a return to Soll after 25 years. The snow is fantastic this year, as good or even better than in 1980 and 1981. We'd like to book to go back next year, but I realise how lucky we've been this year. What has Soll and the Skiwelt been like in recent years when they have had to rely on artificial snow? We'd plan on going either the first or third week in January. Cheers Mike |
Florian Anwander wrote: Hi, my experience is: Soll may be without snow in the valley but there will be definitely snow up on the mountain in January. If there is no snow, you won't have satisfying conditions anywhere in Tyrol. And to comment AH: we have a nice continuous Winter this year (I am located in Munich as AH), but it is not very unusual. I don't remember more than one or two seasons in the last twenty years in which it was impossible to ski down to the valley in january. Florian Mike Dodds wrote: We got back from Soll just over a week ago. It was our first ski holiday for about 10 years and a return to Soll after 25 years. The snow is fantastic this year, as good or even better than in 1980 and 1981. We'd like to book to go back next year, but I realise how lucky we've been this year. What has Soll and the Skiwelt been like in recent years when they have had to rely on artificial snow? We'd plan on going either the first or third week in January. Cheers Mike There might be snow up top, but with a max vertical of 800 m, and loss of snow in the valley cuts of runs below the gondola. And that means a vertical of a few hundred meters. This is true of most of Aaustria. If you dont mind yo-yo runs than OK, but if you like more than a k vertical, then you are better off in a cheap French resort like Risoul, which has good snow, height, and size. |
"fat_boy" wrote in message oups.com... This is true of most of Aaustria. If you dont mind yo-yo runs than OK, but if you like more than a k vertical, then you are better off in a cheap French resort like Risoul, which has good snow, height, and size. When you get to my age you realise that length is not the only imporant thing. Austria as a skiing destination offers much more than France. If only they had German beer on tap Austria would be heaven on earth. Fortunately there are bottles. The French Alps would be wonderful if the current custodians could only learn about hospitality and manners from the Austrians. Then you'd only need to avoid French holidays and weekends. Besides I speak much better German than French. ;-) Mike |
"fat_boy" wrote in message oups.com... Florian Anwander wrote: Hi, my experience is: Soll may be without snow in the valley but there will be definitely snow up on the mountain in January. If there is no snow, you won't have satisfying conditions anywhere in Tyrol. And to comment AH: we have a nice continuous Winter this year (I am located in Munich as AH), but it is not very unusual. I don't remember more than one or two seasons in the last twenty years in which it was impossible to ski down to the valley in january. Florian Mike Dodds wrote: We got back from Soll just over a week ago. It was our first ski holiday for about 10 years and a return to Soll after 25 years. The snow is fantastic this year, as good or even better than in 1980 and 1981. We'd like to book to go back next year, but I realise how lucky we've been this year. What has Soll and the Skiwelt been like in recent years when they have had to rely on artificial snow? We'd plan on going either the first or third week in January. Cheers Mike There might be snow up top, but with a max vertical of 800 m, and loss of snow in the valley cuts of runs below the gondola. And that means a vertical of a few hundred meters. This is true of most of Aaustria. If you dont mind yo-yo runs than OK, but if you like more than a k vertical, then you are better off in a cheap French resort like Risoul, which has good snow, height, and size. Funny you bring up Risoul - my friends were there January last year and the snow was terrible! I can't imagine it would be much better this year considering the way things are at the big French resorts. Florian sounds like he has experience in the matter (which I admit I don't) and he says that no snow in the valley has only happened a couple of times in around 20 years, so that is pretty snow sure to me.. |
Mike Dodds wrote: "fat_boy" wrote in message oups.com... This is true of most of Aaustria. If you dont mind yo-yo runs than OK, but if you like more than a k vertical, then you are better off in a cheap French resort like Risoul, which has good snow, height, and size. When you get to my age you realise that length is not the only imporant thing. Austria as a skiing destination offers much more than France. If only they had German beer on tap Austria would be heaven on earth. Fortunately there are bottles. The French Alps would be wonderful if the current custodians could only learn about hospitality and manners from the Austrians. Then you'd only need to avoid French holidays and weekends. Besides I speak much better German than French. ;-) Mike True, I much prefer Austria for ambiance, and I would go there, but only on a last minute deal. To plan a year ahead, it just hasnt got the snow reliability. Regarding hospitability, I find the French OK. I do speak French so that probably helps. Unlike most of the Germanic world that speaks English too. |
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