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Colin Irvine[_4_] December 24th 09 12:37 PM

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I bought some Hestra gloves a year or two ago to replace my original
pair, and they've been warm enough up to now. However, they couldn't
cope with Tignes last week, -17C at resort level so goodness knows
what it was at the top in the wind.

I reckon I should be looking at some top-of-the-range mitts. What do
people suggest? Ideally tryable-on in the UK, but I'd settle for mail
order XLs.

--
Colin Irvine

The Older Gentleman[_2_] December 24th 09 01:35 PM

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Colin Irvine wrote:

I bought some Hestra gloves a year or two ago to replace my original
pair, and they've been warm enough up to now. However, they couldn't
cope with Tignes last week, -17C at resort level so goodness knows
what it was at the top in the wind.

I reckon I should be looking at some top-of-the-range mitts. What do
people suggest? Ideally tryable-on in the UK, but I'd settle for mail
order XLs.


I used Columbia for years. Very good. Or you could just use thermal
undergloves as well?


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vulgarandmischevious December 24th 09 03:06 PM

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Colin Irvine wrote:

I bought some Hestra gloves a year or two ago to replace my original
pair, and they've been warm enough up to now. However, they couldn't
cope with Tignes last week, -17C at resort level so goodness knows
what it was at the top in the wind.

I reckon I should be looking at some top-of-the-range mitts. What do
people suggest?


K is always cold, and tried a couple of pairs of cheap-ish gloves. In
the end, she got some Swany leather-covered mittens, which she says
are fantastic.

I'm thinking of getting some myself. like this:
http://www.swanyamerica.com/prod.php?p=SWANFX-15


remove y December 24th 09 03:07 PM

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In message , Colin Irvine
writes
I bought some Hestra gloves a year or two ago to replace my original
pair, and they've been warm enough up to now. However, they couldn't
cope with Tignes last week, -17C at resort level so goodness knows
what it was at the top in the wind.

I reckon I should be looking at some top-of-the-range mitts. What do
people suggest? Ideally tryable-on in the UK, but I'd settle for mail
order XLs.



I have a lot of trouble with cold hands and use mitts. One of the good
features is that on some you can get the inside lining out for drying.
Not sure about wrist protection though.
You'll need to look for snow boarders stuff for the best and make sure
you are happy holding your poles with whatever you choose.

Am using Level "half pipe mitt at moment"

They had a web site and a UK firm sold me what I use for a reduced end
of line price last year.

--
PK
pauldotkellyatmcbdotnet

Colin Irvine[_4_] December 24th 09 04:10 PM

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On Thu, 24 Dec 2009 08:06:06 -0700, vulgarandmischevious squeezed out
the following:

Colin Irvine wrote:

I bought some Hestra gloves a year or two ago to replace my original
pair, and they've been warm enough up to now. However, they couldn't
cope with Tignes last week, -17C at resort level so goodness knows
what it was at the top in the wind.

I reckon I should be looking at some top-of-the-range mitts. What do
people suggest?


K is always cold, and tried a couple of pairs of cheap-ish gloves. In
the end, she got some Swany leather-covered mittens, which she says
are fantastic.

I'm thinking of getting some myself. like this:
http://www.swanyamerica.com/prod.php?p=SWANFX-15


Funnily enough I'd already had a look at these
http://www.swanyamerica.com/prod.php?p=SWASX-44

The only downsides seem to be they're not Goretex, which I've always
had so far, plus apparant lack of availability in the UK.

--
Colin Irvine

Colin Irvine[_4_] December 24th 09 04:11 PM

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On Thu, 24 Dec 2009 13:35:02 +0000, The Older Gentleman squeezed out
the following:

Colin Irvine wrote:

I bought some Hestra gloves a year or two ago to replace my original
pair, and they've been warm enough up to now. However, they couldn't
cope with Tignes last week, -17C at resort level so goodness knows
what it was at the top in the wind.

I reckon I should be looking at some top-of-the-range mitts. What do
people suggest? Ideally tryable-on in the UK, but I'd settle for mail
order XLs.


I used Columbia for years. Very good.


I shall have a look, ta.

Or you could just use thermal
undergloves as well?


I've already got silk undergloves, but they don't seem to make a lot
of difference.

--
Colin Irvine

Colin Irvine[_4_] December 24th 09 04:12 PM

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On Thu, 24 Dec 2009 15:07:34 +0000, remove y squeezed out the
following:

In message , Colin Irvine
writes
I bought some Hestra gloves a year or two ago to replace my original
pair, and they've been warm enough up to now. However, they couldn't
cope with Tignes last week, -17C at resort level so goodness knows
what it was at the top in the wind.

I reckon I should be looking at some top-of-the-range mitts. What do
people suggest? Ideally tryable-on in the UK, but I'd settle for mail
order XLs.



I have a lot of trouble with cold hands and use mitts. One of the good
features is that on some you can get the inside lining out for drying.
Not sure about wrist protection though.
You'll need to look for snow boarders stuff for the best


I'd begun to suspect that would be a fruitful area..

--
Colin Irvine

vulgarandmischevious December 24th 09 04:29 PM

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Colin Irvine wrote:

On Thu, 24 Dec 2009 08:06:06 -0700, vulgarandmischevious squeezed out
the following:

Colin Irvine wrote:

I bought some Hestra gloves a year or two ago to replace my original
pair, and they've been warm enough up to now. However, they couldn't
cope with Tignes last week, -17C at resort level so goodness knows
what it was at the top in the wind.

I reckon I should be looking at some top-of-the-range mitts. What do
people suggest?


K is always cold, and tried a couple of pairs of cheap-ish gloves. In
the end, she got some Swany leather-covered mittens, which she says
are fantastic.

I'm thinking of getting some myself. like this:
http://www.swanyamerica.com/prod.php?p=SWANFX-15


Funnily enough I'd already had a look at these
http://www.swanyamerica.com/prod.php?p=SWASX-44


Yes - those are the ones that K has. She says they are stellar. And
she feels the cold pretty severely.

The only downsides seem to be they're not Goretex, which I've always
had so far, plus apparant lack of availability in the UK.


I'd be happy to get them and post them to you, if you decide you want
them. Of course, that doesn't help with the "trying them on" thing.

Colin Irvine[_4_] December 24th 09 05:37 PM

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On Thu, 24 Dec 2009 09:29:35 -0700, vulgarandmischevious squeezed out
the following:

Colin Irvine wrote:

Funnily enough I'd already had a look at these
http://www.swanyamerica.com/prod.php?p=SWASX-44


Yes - those are the ones that K has. She says they are stellar. And
she feels the cold pretty severely.

The only downsides seem to be they're not Goretex, which I've always
had so far, plus apparant lack of availability in the UK.


I'd be happy to get them and post them to you, if you decide you want
them. Of course, that doesn't help with the "trying them on" thing.


Thanks. I'll see what other suggestions I get, and follow up the ones
I've already got.

We've only one more week skiing booked atm, in Samoens in March. The
Hestras should manage that ok. If I decide to go for Swanys then I
might wait until we're in BC (for the month, next September) and find
a Canadian stockist.

--
Colin Irvine

Ace[_3_] December 24th 09 06:11 PM

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On Thu, 24 Dec 2009 17:37:28 +0000, Colin Irvine
wrote:

On Thu, 24 Dec 2009 09:29:35 -0700, vulgarandmischevious squeezed out
the following:

Colin Irvine wrote:

Funnily enough I'd already had a look at these
http://www.swanyamerica.com/prod.php?p=SWASX-44


Yes - those are the ones that K has. She says they are stellar. And
she feels the cold pretty severely.

The only downsides seem to be they're not Goretex, which I've always
had so far, plus apparant lack of availability in the UK.


TBH in really cold weather you have absolutely no need for goretex.
There won't be any moisture on the outside and your hands won't be
sweating either. I don't currently own any serious cold gloves, but I
wouldn't be bothered about waterproofness if I only wanted them for
-15C conditions.

As it happens, I very rarely feel the need for anything warmer than
'normal' ski gloves even in those temperatures, using simple leather
ones unless it's absolutely ****ing it down, ordinary goretext ones if
it is. For real warm-weather stuff I've just bought some deerskin
gardening gloves. Incredibly lightweight, should be perfect.

If I decide to go for Swanys then I
might wait until we're in BC (for the month, next September) and find
a Canadian stockist.


I see that they're sponsoring a few freeride skiers here in CH, and
that they have a manufacturing plant here too
http://www.swanyeurope.com/ but I can't find a list of retailers. I'd
be happy to pick some up for you if you can find a shop.

--
Ace
Ski Club of Great Britain http://www.skiclub.co.uk/
All opinions expressed are those of the poster and in no way reflect those of the Ski Club or its members

Colin Irvine[_4_] December 24th 09 07:06 PM

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On Thu, 24 Dec 2009 19:11:58 +0100, Ace squeezed out the following:

On Thu, 24 Dec 2009 17:37:28 +0000, Colin Irvine
wrote:


The only downsides seem to be they're not Goretex, which I've always
had so far, plus apparant lack of availability in the UK.


TBH in really cold weather you have absolutely no need for goretex.
There won't be any moisture on the outside and your hands won't be
sweating either. I don't currently own any serious cold gloves, but I
wouldn't be bothered about waterproofness if I only wanted them for
-15C conditions.


Fair point.

If I decide to go for Swanys then I
might wait until we're in BC (for the month, next September) and find
a Canadian stockist.


I see that they're sponsoring a few freeride skiers here in CH, and
that they have a manufacturing plant here too
http://www.swanyeurope.com/ but I can't find a list of retailers. I'd
be happy to pick some up for you if you can find a shop.


Cheers. But what a dreadfull site! I might get in touch with them
anyway and see who stocks what.

--
Colin Irvine

Ace[_3_] December 25th 09 12:39 AM

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On Thu, 24 Dec 2009 19:06:09 +0000, Colin Irvine
wrote:

On Thu, 24 Dec 2009 19:11:58 +0100, Ace squeezed out the following:

On Thu, 24 Dec 2009 17:37:28 +0000, Colin Irvine
wrote:


If I decide to go for Swanys then I
might wait until we're in BC (for the month, next September) and find
a Canadian stockist.


I see that they're sponsoring a few freeride skiers here in CH, and
that they have a manufacturing plant here too
http://www.swanyeurope.com/ but I can't find a list of retailers. I'd
be happy to pick some up for you if you can find a shop.


Cheers. But what a dreadfull site!


Isn't it just. Took me quite a while to even find the main part by
hovering the pointer over the left-hand part of the screen. Talk about
counter-intuitive. And so little info too.

I might get in touch with them anyway and see who stocks what.


I'll keep my eye open too.

--
Ace
Ski Club of Great Britain http://www.skiclub.co.uk/
All opinions expressed are those of the poster and in no way reflect those of the Ski Club or its members

Eugene Miya December 30th 09 06:27 PM

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I tend to prefer Black Diamond ice climbing mitts or gloves.
The longer the gauntlet the better. I accidently left my pair on the
train at Pontresina just before the higher Bernina opened up. A very
attactive young red haired conductor was both the distraction and savior
and I got them back later mid-afternoon.

Most gloves and mitts have too short a gauntlet.

--

Looking for an H-912 (container).


Ace[_3_] December 30th 09 09:43 PM

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On 30 Dec 2009 10:27:35 -0800, (Eugene Miya)
wrote:

I tend to prefer Black Diamond ice climbing mitts or gloves.
The longer the gauntlet the better. I accidently left my pair on the
train at Pontresina just before the higher Bernina opened up. A very
attactive young red haired conductor was both the distraction and savior
and I got them back later mid-afternoon.

Most gloves and mitts have too short a gauntlet.


IME many are too long, which ironically can lead to more snow ingress
rather than less, as they tend to bunch up and trap it there. Of
course, for real cold such as Coline is asking about, you need them,
but in most conditions I prefer a much shorter glove that allows any
snow to clear out more easily.

--
Ace
Ski Club of Great Britain
http://www.skiclub.co.uk/
All opinions expressed are those of the poster and in no way reflect those of the Ski Club or its members

Colin Irvine[_4_] December 31st 09 12:51 AM

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On Wed, 30 Dec 2009 22:43:12 +0100, Ace squeezed out the following:

On 30 Dec 2009 10:27:35 -0800, (Eugene Miya)
wrote:

I tend to prefer Black Diamond ice climbing mitts or gloves.
The longer the gauntlet the better. I accidently left my pair on the
train at Pontresina just before the higher Bernina opened up. A very
attactive young red haired conductor was both the distraction and savior
and I got them back later mid-afternoon.

Most gloves and mitts have too short a gauntlet.


IME many are too long, which ironically can lead to more snow ingress
rather than less, as they tend to bunch up and trap it there. Of
course, for real cold such as Coline is asking about


flounce

The UK wholesaler tells me that they didn't import any Swanys this
year because the poor Euro exchange rate made them too expensive.
There are some to be had, but not in my size. I think Canada remains
my best bet.

--
Colin Irvine

Ace[_3_] December 31st 09 07:51 AM

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On Thu, 31 Dec 2009 00:51:50 +0000, Colin Irvine
wrote:



The UK wholesaler tells me that they didn't import any Swanys this
year because the poor Euro exchange rate made them too expensive.
There are some to be had, but not in my size. I think Canada remains
my best bet.


Did you try emailing to see who else stocked
them? A quick search shows just one retailer in Verbier with that
specific model,
http://www.google.ch/search?hl=en&q=...tryCH&aq=f&oq=

but it's more expensive than the US price, so if you can be confident
of the size you might as well just mail-order it from the US.

--
Ace
Ski Club of Great Britain http://www.skiclub.co.uk/
All opinions expressed are those of the poster and in no way reflect those of the Ski Club or its members

Colin Irvine[_4_] December 31st 09 08:57 AM

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On Thu, 31 Dec 2009 08:51:38 +0100, Ace squeezed out the following:

On Thu, 31 Dec 2009 00:51:50 +0000, Colin Irvine
wrote:



The UK wholesaler tells me that they didn't import any Swanys this
year because the poor Euro exchange rate made them too expensive.
There are some to be had, but not in my size. I think Canada remains
my best bet.


Did you try emailing to see who else stocked
them? A quick search shows just one retailer in Verbier with that
specific model,
http://www.google.ch/search?hl=en&q=...tryCH&aq=f&oq=


Useful, ta - I'm missing a search from Switzerland button!

but it's more expensive than the US price, so if you can be confident
of the size you might as well just mail-order it from the US.


I see what you mean - there's a big difference in price. I think I'll
look for some more detail on Canadian prices, where if I'm patient I
can see them before buying - which I'm more inclined to do now, given
how expensive the better ones are.

--
Colin Irvine

Ace[_3_] December 31st 09 02:52 PM

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On Thu, 31 Dec 2009 08:57:20 +0000, Colin Irvine
wrote:

On Thu, 31 Dec 2009 08:51:38 +0100, Ace squeezed out the following:


http://www.google.ch/search?hl=en&q=...tryCH&aq=f&oq=


Useful, ta - I'm missing a search from Switzerland button!


Just add this bit &meta=cr%3DcountryCH onto the URL

but it's more expensive than the US price, so if you can be confident
of the size you might as well just mail-order it from the US.


I see what you mean - there's a big difference in price. I think I'll
look for some more detail on Canadian prices, where if I'm patient I
can see them before buying - which I'm more inclined to do now, given
how expensive the better ones are.


Indeed. I'd never buy gloves without trying them on first, as there's
a large variation in both size and shape - some gloves just don't feel
right, others immediately fit like a... well, like a glove.

--
Ace
Ski Club of Great Britain http://www.skiclub.co.uk/
All opinions expressed are those of the poster and in no way reflect those of the Ski Club or its members

Paul S January 1st 10 03:33 PM

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"Colin Irvine" wrote in message
...
On Thu, 24 Dec 2009 13:35:02 +0000, The Older Gentleman squeezed out
the following:

Colin Irvine wrote:

I bought some Hestra gloves a year or two ago to replace my original
pair, and they've been warm enough up to now. However, they couldn't
cope with Tignes last week, -17C at resort level so goodness knows
what it was at the top in the wind.

I reckon I should be looking at some top-of-the-range mitts. What do
people suggest? Ideally tryable-on in the UK, but I'd settle for mail
order XLs.


I used Columbia for years. Very good.


I shall have a look, ta.

Or you could just use thermal
undergloves as well?


I've already got silk undergloves, but they don't seem to make a lot
of difference.


I bought some under armor liners made of neoprene or some such stretchy
material and they proved really good in Canada last year. They are a fair
bit thicker than silk gloves and also have grips on the palms so can be used
a standalone gloves when it's a bit warmer.

--
Paul S


Ollie Clark January 6th 10 02:54 PM

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Colin Irvine wrote:
I bought some Hestra gloves a year or two ago to replace my original
pair, and they've been warm enough up to now. However, they couldn't
cope with Tignes last week, -17C at resort level so goodness knows
what it was at the top in the wind.


That doesn't sound too bad. I've been in -33 in Val Thorens with some
old Goretex gloves and was fine.

I did have silk under gloves on though which I find make a huge
difference. Perhaps try those before you shell out for a new pair of
mitts.

Also, make sure the rest of your body is kept warm. If your core
temperature starts to drop, blood is diverted out of your feet and
hands to the core so no matter how good your gloves or mitts are
your hands will still be cold.

Cheers,

Ollie

Colin Irvine[_4_] January 7th 10 03:17 PM

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On 06 Jan 2010 14:54:23 GMT, Ollie Clark squeezed out the following:

Colin Irvine wrote:
I bought some Hestra gloves a year or two ago to replace my original
pair, and they've been warm enough up to now. However, they couldn't
cope with Tignes last week, -17C at resort level so goodness knows
what it was at the top in the wind.


That doesn't sound too bad. I've been in -33 in Val Thorens with some
old Goretex gloves and was fine.

I did have silk under gloves on though


So did I.

--
Colin Irvine

Dynastarian September 14th 10 11:33 PM

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On 2009-12-24 07:37:20 -0500, Colin Irvine said:

I bought some Hestra gloves a year or two ago to replace my original
pair, and they've been warm enough up to now. However, they couldn't
cope with Tignes last week, -17C at resort level so goodness knows
what it was at the top in the wind.

I reckon I should be looking at some top-of-the-range mitts. What do
people suggest? Ideally tryable-on in the UK, but I'd settle for mail
order XLs.





Try Outdoor Research (OR).....


[email protected] March 12th 14 08:20 PM

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Ace wrote:
On Thu, 24 Dec 2009 17:37:28 +0000, Colin Irvine

wrote:

[...]
As it happens, I very rarely feel the need for anything warmer than
'normal' ski gloves even in those temperatures, using simple leather
ones unless it's absolutely ****ing it down, ordinary goretext ones if
it is. For real warm-weather stuff I've just bought some deerskin
gardening gloves. Incredibly lightweight, should be perfect.

[...]

Exactly that. I have some thick leather unlined rodeo gloves which I
use for warm weather. You still need gloves on even in T-shirt weather
and insulated gloves are hot and sweaty. I took mine off once and only
once and sliced open my hand on the ski for my trouble.


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