Pilot "Sport" Classic Binding?
 

I need bindings for new roller skis and am totally confused at what Salomon now offers for classic. The least expensive option is actually a "Sport" pilot binding that looks a lot like the skate binding (rigid piece that connects to second bar).

People have described a kevlar strap as part of the race classic pilot binding, but this version looks like it doesn't have that (so might actually be an improvement for roller-skiing). I have one pair pilot, one pair old-style profil classic boots--ideally I'd like to be able to use either, depending on how much ankle support I find I need.

Then there's the Propulse, which people say can only be used with newer pilot soled boots--though it's not clear why. Then there's old-style pilot (which, unfortunately, is actually out of stock from my discount source).

Any advice appreciated.

Jon

Pilot "Sport" Classic Binding?
 

Isn't the Propulse for skate? Which boots do you have? If the boots
fit, I think any classical binding can be used. What counts is the
flexor. Classical = 85(?) or may want to go one stiffer. I may still
have some around.

Gene

On Sun, 5 May 2013 13:24:22 -0700 (PDT)
Jon wrote:

I need bindings for new roller skis and am totally confused at what
Salomon now offers for classic. The least expensive option is
actually a "Sport" pilot binding that looks a lot like the skate
binding (rigid piece that connects to second bar).

People have described a kevlar strap as part of the race classic
pilot binding, but this version looks like it doesn't have that (so
might actually be an improvement for roller-skiing). I have one pair
pilot, one pair old-style profil classic boots--ideally I'd like to
be able to use either, depending on how much ankle support I find I
need.

Then there's the Propulse, which people say can only be used with
newer pilot soled boots--though it's not clear why. Then there's
old-style pilot (which, unfortunately, is actually out of stock from
my discount source).

Any advice appreciated.

Jon

Pilot "Sport" Classic Binding?
 

On 5/5/2013 10:41 PM, wrote:
Isn't the Propulse for skate? Which boots do you have? If the boots
fit, I think any classical binding can be used. What counts is the
flexor. Classical = 85(?) or may want to go one stiffer. I may still
have some around.

Gene

On Sun, 5 May 2013 13:24:22 -0700 (PDT)
Jon wrote:

I need bindings for new roller skis and am totally confused at what
Salomon now offers for classic. The least expensive option is
actually a "Sport" pilot binding that looks a lot like the skate
binding (rigid piece that connects to second bar).

People have described a kevlar strap as part of the race classic
pilot binding, but this version looks like it doesn't have that (so
might actually be an improvement for roller-skiing). I have one pair
pilot, one pair old-style profil classic boots--ideally I'd like to
be able to use either, depending on how much ankle support I find I
need.

Then there's the Propulse, which people say can only be used with
newer pilot soled boots--though it's not clear why. Then there's
old-style pilot (which, unfortunately, is actually out of stock from
my discount source).

Any advice appreciated.

Jon

The setback is different for the newer Pilot boots, and Propulse
bindings use a different flexor. You can get a Propulse flexor for
older boots. Unfortunate that they had to go that route though.

Bob

Pilot "Sport" Classic Binding?
 

Wow, since changing over to NNN, I'm really behind the times. There is
a Propulse classic and in two versions. It seems Salomon finally
decided that wider under foot gives more stability and perhaps push
off. Mark Wachter describes compatibility in part in his review of
the Propulse:
http://blog.ultratune.net/2010/03/ne...-bindings.html

Gene


On Mon, 06 May 2013 11:18:18 -0500
Bob Schwartz wrote:

On 5/5/2013 10:41 PM, wrote:
Isn't the Propulse for skate? Which boots do you have? If the
boots fit, I think any classical binding can be used. What counts
is the flexor. Classical = 85(?) or may want to go one stiffer. I
may still have some around.

Gene

On Sun, 5 May 2013 13:24:22 -0700 (PDT)
Jon wrote:

I need bindings for new roller skis and am totally confused at what
Salomon now offers for classic. The least expensive option is
actually a "Sport" pilot binding that looks a lot like the skate
binding (rigid piece that connects to second bar).

People have described a kevlar strap as part of the race classic
pilot binding, but this version looks like it doesn't have that (so
might actually be an improvement for roller-skiing). I have one
pair pilot, one pair old-style profil classic boots--ideally I'd
like to be able to use either, depending on how much ankle support
I find I need.

Then there's the Propulse, which people say can only be used with
newer pilot soled boots--though it's not clear why. Then there's
old-style pilot (which, unfortunately, is actually out of stock
from my discount source).

Any advice appreciated.

Jon

The setback is different for the newer Pilot boots, and Propulse
bindings use a different flexor. You can get a Propulse flexor for
older boots. Unfortunate that they had to go that route though.

Bob

Pilot "Sport" Classic Binding?
 

Thanks for the link.

I'm just not seeing anything that stands out to justify saying they're "a big improvement" over profil. A little wider, and bumper is less likely to pop out. That's it?

In any case, sounds like you need the RS17 sole for compatibility, which I don't have. Just not convinced classical skiing demands much in the way of technological improvement--if it's not broke...