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Fakie board recommendation
I am looking for some board recommendations. I know I should rent and
try a bunch of boards before I buy, but I don't get to ride nearly enough, and I don't want to spend half the season messing around with differnet boards. Not to mention, it sounds like a hassle to try to track down the board you want to try, in the correct size and everything, go rent it, get it set up, ride, and then return it. Maby I'm just lazy. I consider myself an intermediate to advanced rider. I usually ride fakie for at least half the day and therefore don't want a directional board. The catch, however, is that I spend more time out of the park than in it (I usually play in the park for only 1-2 hours in a full day of riding). So, I don't want a board that would be made for freestyle riding (as most non-directional boards are). I live on the East coast, so deep powder runs are rare, mostly packed powder (if you can call it that), and ice. I am 6' and weigh around 170 lbs. I would like to find something under $400 and have no problem buying last year's model. Anybody out there that knows what I am looking for? |
Fakie board recommendation
Do manufacturers even make true twin boards anymore? All boards have some
degree of more stiffness in the tail don't they? I suppose you could get any board that calls itself freestyle rather than freeride.. "Skitzo" wrote in message om... I am looking for some board recommendations. I know I should rent and try a bunch of boards before I buy, but I don't get to ride nearly enough, and I don't want to spend half the season messing around with differnet boards. Not to mention, it sounds like a hassle to try to track down the board you want to try, in the correct size and everything, go rent it, get it set up, ride, and then return it. Maby I'm just lazy. I consider myself an intermediate to advanced rider. I usually ride fakie for at least half the day and therefore don't want a directional board. The catch, however, is that I spend more time out of the park than in it (I usually play in the park for only 1-2 hours in a full day of riding). So, I don't want a board that would be made for freestyle riding (as most non-directional boards are). I live on the East coast, so deep powder runs are rare, mostly packed powder (if you can call it that), and ice. I am 6' and weigh around 170 lbs. I would like to find something under $400 and have no problem buying last year's model. Anybody out there that knows what I am looking for? |
Fakie board recommendation
You may be right. I haven't looked that hard, but I most boards
appear to be advertised as directional. My concern with buying a freestyle board is that it won't perform well on icy trails when carving, which I probably spend most my time doing. Perhaps I should change my question to 'Does anyone know of any good directional snowboards that aren't that directional'. For example, the nose and the tail have similar charactersitics, the binding setback is minimal, and the nose isn't that much softer than the tail. I will spend a moment to vent too. Why is it soo difficult to find usefull information about snowboards on the manufacturer's websites? They seem to be convinced that I want to hear cool music and see awsome graphics rather than information about their products that would be helpful. For example, wouldn't it make sense for them to give information about how each or their boards are different (i.e. board x is aimed for use in the pipe, while board y is good for kickers, and board z is aimed at backcountry riding). Or, maby 'board x has a stiffer tail which is better for ..., and board y has better dampening for .., and board z has larger sidecuts for ... When they have 5-10 different boards in each category, like 'freeride' or 'freestyle' or 'all-mountain', and they don't really have any comparison between them, what use is that? Perhaps I'm just way to out of touch and should pick this up from their pictures, or the music they are playing, or who the board is named after. Sorry about the rant. Thanks. "4matic" wrote in message y.com... Do manufacturers even make true twin boards anymore? All boards have some degree of more stiffness in the tail don't they? I suppose you could get any board that calls itself freestyle rather than freeride.. "Skitzo" wrote in message om... I am looking for some board recommendations. I know I should rent and try a bunch of boards before I buy, but I don't get to ride nearly enough, and I don't want to spend half the season messing around with differnet boards. Not to mention, it sounds like a hassle to try to track down the board you want to try, in the correct size and everything, go rent it, get it set up, ride, and then return it. Maby I'm just lazy. I consider myself an intermediate to advanced rider. I usually ride fakie for at least half the day and therefore don't want a directional board. The catch, however, is that I spend more time out of the park than in it (I usually play in the park for only 1-2 hours in a full day of riding). So, I don't want a board that would be made for freestyle riding (as most non-directional boards are). I live on the East coast, so deep powder runs are rare, mostly packed powder (if you can call it that), and ice. I am 6' and weigh around 170 lbs. I would like to find something under $400 and have no problem buying last year's model. Anybody out there that knows what I am looking for? |
Fakie board recommendation
Perhaps I should
change my question to 'Does anyone know of any good directional snowboards that aren't that directional'. For example, the nose and the tail have similar charactersitics, the binding setback is minimal, and the nose isn't that much softer than the tail. You can always move the bindings a little more forward especially if you center your disks across the width (not always desirable, depending on binding design and boot size). In general there are two differences between the tip and the tail, ignoring the location of the inserts: stiffness and width. The nose, as you have already discussed, is typically softer, and also wider, typically 4 - 6 mm, than the tail. You don't see too many true twin-tips out there and when you do, they are usually shorter and have a tight sidecut, making them not so great for edge hold... thus not what you want. Donek snowboards (www.donek.com) used to make a twin tip. I think the twin tips disappeared from their website about 2 years ago, but you can always call and ask if he can still make you one. I've had excellent experiences with Donek so far - my wife and I have bought 6 of them between us. If you want edge hold, it doesn't get any better without going to an alpine board (which you don't ride fakie unless you are really good and showing off :) ) .. Look on google for archives of this newsgroup for extensive discussion of Donek. I will spend a moment to vent too. Why is it soo difficult to find usefull information about snowboards on the manufacturer's websites? No kidding. Alas, such is life when most of their revenue comes from kids that are more interested in image than performance. Mike T |
Fakie board recommendation
(Skitzo) wrote in message . com...
Anybody out there that knows what I am looking for? I'm a big Prior fan - I think you should look at their all-mountain freestyle. A quote from the profile of the board: "Shape - The AMF's subtle, directional shape and minimal stance setbacks provide an uncompromising switch ride." See www.priorsnowboards.com for more info. Check under their used/demo section - they have a half-dozen AMF boards available ranging in price from $CDN 250 to $CDN 400 (US 180-290 at current exchange). The Donek Incline is also a great general purpose board, but probably more directional/carvey than you're looking for. |
Fakie board recommendation
On Fri, 08 Aug 2003 15:43:19 GMT, "Mike T" allegedly
wrote: I will spend a moment to vent too. Why is it soo difficult to find usefull information about snowboards on the manufacturer's websites? No kidding. Alas, such is life when most of their revenue comes from kids that are more interested in image than performance. Which is really what I don't get. Surely we the "adults"[1] have the disposable income to blow on boards/bindings/etc. For sure a lot of kids want to get into the "scene", but the percentage of them that have good jobs themselves or parents willing to shell out that sort of cash must be small. Maybe it's a "get them young" kind of thing. As they break into their teens and go through their teenage angst crap[2] they look for cool things to make them feel cool. When they're no longer cool, but have money of their own, maybe they stick with the cool brand. Ah, I'm waffling now. - Dave. [1] I use the word loosely :-) [2] Greatest movie line ever from Heathers: "My teenage angst bull**** has a body count". -- The only powder to get high on, falls from the sky. http://www.vpas.org/ - Snowboarding the worlds pow pow - Securing your e-mail The Snowboard FAQ lives here - http://rssFAQ.org/ |
Fakie board recommendation
Which is really what I don't get. Surely we the "adults"[1] have the
disposable income to blow on boards/bindings/etc. For sure a lot of kids want to get into the "scene", but the percentage of them that have good jobs themselves or parents willing to shell out that sort of cash must be small. You'd be surprised at the numbers of kids here in the States whose parents shell out for things like snowboards that sit in the closet. Also, think about it - the ideal customer is one who buys the product and then displays it proudly on their wall and rarely rides it - less customer service, less warranty returns, etc! There are countless kids in suburban America who will do just that, and whose parents shell out for it time and time again. (Yes, their are many times that number who can't afford to snowboard at all... but I digress....) [2] Greatest movie line ever from Heathers: "My teenage angst bull**** has a body count". CLASSIC!!!!!! Mike T |
Fakie board recommendation
However there is one thing that bothers me about all of the replies I got. What makes you think I'm not a kid? Is it that obvious? "Perhaps I'm just way to out of touch and should pick this up from their pictures, or the music they are playing, or who the board is named after." No kid admits to being out of touch....the nearest they can get is "I'm too cool to know this..." ;-) liz |
Fakie board recommendation
"Mike T" wrote in message ... Donek snowboards (www.donek.com) used to make a twin tip. I think the twin tips disappeared from their website about 2 years ago, but you can always call and ask if he can still make you one. I've had excellent experiences with Donek so far - my wife and I have bought 6 of them between us. If you want edge hold, it doesn't get any better without going to an alpine board (which you don't ride fakie unless you are really good and showing off :) ) Mike T Donek is coming out with a true twin tip for '05!! For freestyle the Twin is absolutely the sickest board I've ever ridden. For true hard carving freestyle this is the board to have. It butters with ease yet plows through the crud. I haven't ridden the Phoenix yet but it is supposed to be a bit stiffer and isn't a true twin. Below are the specs for both models. You won't find these on the website as they are being sold retail at your local snowboard shop starting early Fall. If your local shop doesn't carry them have them give me a call. Model Length (cm) Effective Edge (cm) Equivalent Sidecut Radius (m) Width Nose/Waist/Tail (cm) Suggested Retail 150 Twin 150 114 7.4 29.1 / 24.7 / 29.1 $475.00 156 Twin 155 119 8 29.4 / 25.0 / 29.4 $475.00 161 Twin 160 124 8.7 30.4 / 26.0 / 30.4 $475.00 155 Phoenix 155 122 8 29.6 / 24.8 / 29.4 $475.00 160 Phoenix 160 127 8.5 29.9 / 25.0 / 29.7 $475.00 163w Phoenix 163 130 8.7 32.0 / 27.0 / 31.8 $475.00 165 Phoenix 165 132 8.9 30.6 / 25.5 / 30.4 $475.00 Kevin Morrison Northwest Rep Donek Snowboards 206-227-3073 |
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