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Google Earth and ski area viewing
Has anyone tried google earth to vie a ski area yet?
I have known about the Sat images of the earth for a while. Back when microsoft had its terra server up and running and then google got in on the deal the problem was it was very low resolution images. Just recently Google earth has added alot of new hi res scans. when I recently went on I noticed they had the whole of west yorkshire updated. It wasn't long before I started to look at the ski areas, damn low res but I noticed on the version of google earth that you download you can tilt the map and view the contours of the mountain. This is very cool, you can zoom in rotate and almost 'fly' through the valleys. Anyhow, I just happened to zoom into andorra and found that it was hires images. when you zoom in you can see the pistes, lifts and even some people and if you use your imagination you can even spot the odd mogul field. if you haven't already got it check it out here http://earth.google.com/ and then try (copy and paste the following position into the search box) 42°31'48.93"N, 1°27'33.05"E Truely impressive stuff!!!! Cheers Paul |
Paul-S8 wrote:
Has anyone tried google earth to vie a ski area yet? I have known about the Sat images of the earth for a while. Back when microsoft had its terra server up and running and then google got in on the deal the problem was it was very low resolution images. Just recently Google earth has added alot of new hi res scans. when I recently went on I noticed they had the whole of west yorkshire updated. It wasn't long before I started to look at the ski areas, damn low res but I noticed on the version of google earth that you download you can tilt the map and view the contours of the mountain. This is very cool, you can zoom in rotate and almost 'fly' through the valleys. Anyhow, I just happened to zoom into andorra and found that it was hires images. when you zoom in you can see the pistes, lifts and even some people and if you use your imagination you can even spot the odd mogul field. if you haven't already got it check it out here http://earth.google.com/ and then try (copy and paste the following position into the search box) 42°31'48.93"N, 1°27'33.05"E Truely impressive stuff!!!! Cheers Paul I've never thought of using it for ski resorts! Really cool when you change the viewing angle!! |
"Paul-S8" wrote in message ... Has anyone tried google earth to vie a ski area yet? I carry a Garmin GPS with me while skiing. Amongst other things it records a daily "track" of where I've been. On returning home I can upload these tracks into Mapsource (a program that manages Garmin maps, waypoints, tracks etc.) and view the tracks on a map. With the latest Mapsource there is an option to "View in Google Earth" which launches GE then displays the tracks in the appropriate place. You can then use GE to replay the tracks as a "fly-by". Its quite neat although all of my tracks are in the French Alps which are still very low resolution, and the GE images were taken in the summer so there's not much snow about either. You get a pretty accurate idea of the terrain though, especially if you exaggerate it a little in the Options page (multiply by about 1.5 looks quite good). The Andorra images look really great! Walter |
"Walter Wright" wrote in message
... "Paul-S8" wrote in message ... Has anyone tried google earth to vie a ski area yet? I carry a Garmin GPS with me while skiing. Amongst other things it records a daily "track" of where I've been. On returning home I can upload these tracks into Mapsource (a program that manages Garmin maps, waypoints, tracks etc.) and view the tracks on a map. With the latest Mapsource there is an option to "View in Google Earth" which launches GE then displays the tracks in the appropriate place. You can then use GE to replay the tracks as a "fly-by". Its quite neat although all of my tracks are in the French Alps which are still very low resolution, and the GE images were taken in the summer so there's not much snow about either. You get a pretty accurate idea of the terrain though, especially if you exaggerate it a little in the Options page (multiply by about 1.5 looks quite good). The Andorra images look really great! Walter Wow, just wow, I didn't think it could get much better. I have a garmin but won't be using it this year as I am trying the skido think for my smartphone but I am hoping that I can do something with the track data along the same lines. I think I will even suggest it to the skido developers!!!! Paul |
Walter Wright wrote:
The Andorra images look really great! There's also some hires imaging for the Turin Olympic resorts (Sestriere, Bardonecchia, etc.) that looks to have been added fairly recently (and hastily - there's a narrow missing strip close to Cesana, and a rather overexposed frame around Claviere). John. -- -- Over 3000 webcams from ski resorts around the world - www.snoweye.com -- Translate your technical documents and web pages - www.tradoc.fr |
Does this mean you can avoid paying the $20 for Google Earth Plus?
The 3D view allows you to get a good idea of ho the Ski resorts relate to one another and how the mountain paths (for summer walks) can be used. For example it is very straightforward to see the off piste route from Tignes to Champagny. I have been unable to work out how to take tracks traced on Google Earth and import them into a GPS receiver as waypoints etc. Though it uses map data as opposed to remote sensed data, IGN in France does digital maps that link to GPS (these are georectified scanned copies of the 1:25000 maps). The British company, memory map, claims to offer similar; plus 3D fly thoughs and higher resolution aerial photography in its premier edition. I have not tested the Alps version, but I like the one for the UK, especially the cross section profiles and the ability to see how much 'vertical' you have done in a day. If anyone has some more experience of this software for skiing I would like to read about it. John Walter Wright wrote: "Paul-S8" wrote in message ... Has anyone tried google earth to vie a ski area yet? I carry a Garmin GPS with me while skiing. Amongst other things it records a daily "track" of where I've been. On returning home I can upload these tracks into Mapsource (a program that manages Garmin maps, waypoints, tracks etc.) and view the tracks on a map. With the latest Mapsource there is an option to "View in Google Earth" which launches GE then displays the tracks in the appropriate place. You can then use GE to replay the tracks as a "fly-by". Its quite neat although all of my tracks are in the French Alps which are still very low resolution, and the GE images were taken in the summer so there's not much snow about either. You get a pretty accurate idea of the terrain though, especially if you exaggerate it a little in the Options page (multiply by about 1.5 looks quite good). The Andorra images look really great! Walter |
Wow, just wow, I didn't think it could get much better.
I have a garmin but won't be using it this year as I am trying the skido think for my smartphone but I am hoping that I can do something with the track data along the same lines. I think I will even suggest it to the skido developers!!!! Interesting, which Garmin do you have? |
On Thu, 9 Feb 2006 08:55:34 -0000, "Paul-S8"
wrote: wrote in message roups.com... Wow, just wow, I didn't think it could get much better. I have a garmin but won't be using it this year as I am trying the skido think for my smartphone but I am hoping that I can do something with the track data along the same lines. I think I will even suggest it to the skido developers!!!! Interesting, which Garmin do you have? Garmin Legend When I was in Tignes over xmas one of the tour reps was running a little sideline where he'd lend you a small GPS receiver/recorder[1] which he'd then take back and use to produce a complete plot, displayed in several different ways, of your skiing for the day, including speed, rate of descent, distance covered, etc. etc. He was then laminating them and suggesting they could be used as placemats. Charged about 20 EU each, IIRC. [1] no idea what model it was, but it could be worn on your arm. -- Ace (brucedotrogers a.t rochedotcom) Ski Club of Great Britain - http://www.skiclub.co.uk All opinions expressed are personal and in no way represent those of the Ski Club. |
"Ace" wrote in message ... On Thu, 9 Feb 2006 08:55:34 -0000, "Paul-S8" wrote: wrote in message groups.com... Wow, just wow, I didn't think it could get much better. I have a garmin but won't be using it this year as I am trying the skido think for my smartphone but I am hoping that I can do something with the track data along the same lines. I think I will even suggest it to the skido developers!!!! Interesting, which Garmin do you have? Garmin Legend When I was in Tignes over xmas one of the tour reps was running a little sideline where he'd lend you a small GPS receiver/recorder[1] which he'd then take back and use to produce a complete plot, displayed in several different ways, of your skiing for the day, including speed, rate of descent, distance covered, etc. etc. He was then laminating them and suggesting they could be used as placemats. Charged about 20 EU each, IIRC. [1] no idea what model it was, but it could be worn on your arm. -- Ace (brucedotrogers a.t rochedotcom) Ski Club of Great Britain - http://www.skiclub.co.uk All opinions expressed are personal and in no way represent those of the Ski Club. Any idea roughly what speed an intermediate skier will be reaching in an average day's piste bashing? According to my Garmin I peaked at 55mph in Morzine last week but that was in a racing tuck at the end of a long red. My friend, a much better skiier than me, thought that skiers only reach about 30mph and still reckoned the reading was wrong when he borrowed the garmin and hit 58mph. |
On Thu, 09 Feb 2006 11:38:42 GMT, "Norman"
wrote: When I was in Tignes over xmas one of the tour reps was running a little sideline where he'd lend you a small GPS receiver/recorder[1] which he'd then take back and use to produce a complete plot, displayed in several different ways, of your skiing for the day, including speed, rate of descent, distance covered, etc. etc. He was then laminating them and suggesting they could be used as placemats. Charged about 20 EU each, IIRC. snip Any idea roughly what speed an intermediate skier will be reaching in an average day's piste bashing? Some of the group I was talking to had topped 70mph, but they were definitely not in the 'intermediate' category. I'd skiied with them with the Ski Club rep the day before and, while not actually struggling to keep up, I certainly wasn't hanging about. Of course, on neither day were they specifically trying to go balls-out fast. If they/we had, I suspect higher speeds might have been acheived. According to my Garmin I peaked at 55mph in Morzine last week but that was in a racing tuck at the end of a long red. My friend, a much better skiier than me, thought that skiers only reach about 30mph and still reckoned the reading was wrong when he borrowed the garmin and hit 58mph. Speeds of up to 100mph are recorded on some of the faster Downhill events on the World Cup circuit, so I'd suspect that your readout was correct and that your friend was misinformed. -- Ace (brucedotrogers a.t rochedotcom) Ski Club of Great Britain - http://www.skiclub.co.uk All opinions expressed are personal and in no way represent those of the Ski Club. |
"Ace" wrote in message ... On Thu, 09 Feb 2006 11:38:42 GMT, "Norman" wrote: (snip) Speeds of up to 100mph are recorded on some of the faster Downhill events on the World Cup circuit, so I'd suspect that your readout was correct and that your friend was misinformed. Excellent. I'll forward this to him in that case. Ta. |
Norman wrote:
"Ace" wrote in message ... On Thu, 09 Feb 2006 11:38:42 GMT, "Norman" wrote: (snip) Speeds of up to 100mph are recorded on some of the faster Downhill events on the World Cup circuit, so I'd suspect that your readout was correct and that your friend was misinformed. Excellent. I'll forward this to him in that case. Ta. Don't attempt to match him heading home from the Mooserwirt after closing! |
Norman wrote:
"Ace" wrote in message ... On Thu, 09 Feb 2006 11:38:42 GMT, "Norman" wrote: (snip) Speeds of up to 100mph are recorded on some of the faster Downhill events on the World Cup circuit, so I'd suspect that your readout was correct and that your friend was misinformed. Excellent. I'll forward this to him in that case. I would agree with Ace. My push-bike has a fairly accurate (I think) speedometer and I occasionally hit 30mph on it down a steep hill. That seems fast on a bike, but if you imagine you're skiing rather than cycling and look around at how fast things go by, wind feel on your face, where you could turn etc., it seems very slow - I'm sure I've hit at least double that speed on skis. |
" cupra" wrote in message ... Norman wrote: "Ace" wrote in message ... On Thu, 09 Feb 2006 11:38:42 GMT, "Norman" wrote: (snip) Speeds of up to 100mph are recorded on some of the faster Downhill events on the World Cup circuit, so I'd suspect that your readout was correct and that your friend was misinformed. Excellent. I'll forward this to him in that case. Ta. Don't attempt to match him heading home from the Mooserwirt after closing! I won't. He hasn't had a drop for ten years. He does get through some skunk though which I thought might help my skiing on a particurlarly steep red so gave it a go. I just lay down beside the piste and slept for an hour. He later told me it was called Coma. All previous attempts to keep up with him have ended in spectacular spills. The only thing that saves me is that he's totally unfit and has to stop every few minutes so we usually get to the bottom within about 30 secs of each other as I'm only semi-unfit. |
Norman wrote:
" cupra" wrote in message ... Norman wrote: "Ace" wrote in message ... On Thu, 09 Feb 2006 11:38:42 GMT, "Norman" wrote: (snip) Speeds of up to 100mph are recorded on some of the faster Downhill events on the World Cup circuit, so I'd suspect that your readout was correct and that your friend was misinformed. Excellent. I'll forward this to him in that case. Ta. Don't attempt to match him heading home from the Mooserwirt after closing! I won't. He hasn't had a drop for ten years. He does get through some skunk though which I thought might help my skiing on a particurlarly steep red so gave it a go. I just lay down beside the piste and slept for an hour. He later told me it was called Coma. lol - don't do that at -30 though! All previous attempts to keep up with him have ended in spectacular spills. The only thing that saves me is that he's totally unfit and has to stop every few minutes so we usually get to the bottom within about 30 secs of each other as I'm only semi-unfit. My problems my knees - they only allow me 1/2 day of full on boarding these days before I have to take it a little easier! (next holiday is planned for NZ next August so plenty of time to get them seen to!) |
" cupra" wrote in message ... Norman wrote: " cupra" wrote in message ... Norman wrote: "Ace" wrote in message ... On Thu, 09 Feb 2006 11:38:42 GMT, "Norman" wrote: (snip) Speeds of up to 100mph are recorded on some of the faster Downhill events on the World Cup circuit, so I'd suspect that your readout was correct and that your friend was misinformed. Excellent. I'll forward this to him in that case. Ta. Don't attempt to match him heading home from the Mooserwirt after closing! I won't. He hasn't had a drop for ten years. He does get through some skunk though which I thought might help my skiing on a particurlarly steep red so gave it a go. I just lay down beside the piste and slept for an hour. He later told me it was called Coma. lol - don't do that at -30 though! All previous attempts to keep up with him have ended in spectacular spills. The only thing that saves me is that he's totally unfit and has to stop every few minutes so we usually get to the bottom within about 30 secs of each other as I'm only semi-unfit. My problems my knees - they only allow me 1/2 day of full on boarding these days before I have to take it a little easier! (next holiday is planned for NZ next August so plenty of time to get them seen to!) Good luck. I know a particularly attractive seasonaire who'll be in NZ in August. Is boarding harder or easier on the knees do you think? Tendonitis in my knee made me stop playing football a few years ago and it flares up if I do much running, but to my eternal joy and amazement it doesn't seem to mind skiing at all. Phew. |
Norman wrote:
" cupra" wrote in message ... snip My problems my knees - they only allow me 1/2 day of full on boarding these days before I have to take it a little easier! (next holiday is planned for NZ next August so plenty of time to get them seen to!) Good luck. I know a particularly attractive seasonaire who'll be in NZ in August. Is boarding harder or easier on the knees do you think? Tendonitis in my knee made me stop playing football a few years ago and it flares up if I do much running, but to my eternal joy and amazement it doesn't seem to mind skiing at all. Phew. Seems to be easier on mine - although I haven't put on skis for about 6 years now so not sure if they'd hurt more or less! |
On Thu, 09 Feb 2006 13:09:15 +0000, BrritSki
wrote: Norman wrote: "Ace" wrote in message ... Speeds of up to 100mph are recorded on some of the faster Downhill events on the World Cup circuit, so I'd suspect that your readout was correct and that your friend was misinformed. Excellent. I'll forward this to him in that case. I would agree with Ace. My push-bike has a fairly accurate (I think) speedometer and I occasionally hit 30mph on it down a steep hill. Hah, I've seen 50 on mine. Only once, mind, but I regularly used to get over 40. I too have used this as a comparitive measure for skiing speed. That seems fast on a bike, but if you imagine you're skiing rather than cycling and look around at how fast things go by, wind feel on your face, where you could turn etc., it seems very slow - I'm sure I've hit at least double that speed on skis. Aye. Thankfully snow is not normally as abrasive as tarmac. -- Ace (brucedotrogers a.t rochedotcom) Ski Club of Great Britain - http://www.skiclub.co.uk All opinions expressed are personal and in no way represent those of the Ski Club. |
BrritSki wrote:
Norman wrote: "Ace" wrote in message ... On Thu, 09 Feb 2006 11:38:42 GMT, "Norman" wrote: (snip) Speeds of up to 100mph are recorded on some of the faster Downhill events on the World Cup circuit, so I'd suspect that your readout was correct and that your friend was misinformed. Excellent. I'll forward this to him in that case. I would agree with Ace. My push-bike has a fairly accurate (I think) speedometer and I occasionally hit 30mph on it down a steep hill. That seems fast on a bike, but if you imagine you're skiing rather than cycling and look around at how fast things go by, wind feel on your face, where you could turn etc., it seems very slow - I'm sure I've hit at least double that speed on skis. Kind of explains why it's so painful when you fall :) |
Ace wrote:
On Thu, 09 Feb 2006 13:09:15 +0000, BrritSki wrote: Norman wrote: "Ace" wrote in message ... Speeds of up to 100mph are recorded on some of the faster Downhill events on the World Cup circuit, so I'd suspect that your readout was correct and that your friend was misinformed. Excellent. I'll forward this to him in that case. I would agree with Ace. My push-bike has a fairly accurate (I think) speedometer and I occasionally hit 30mph on it down a steep hill. Hah, I've seen 50 on mine. Only once, mind, but I regularly used to get over 40. I too have used this as a comparitive measure for skiing speed. That seems fast on a bike, but if you imagine you're skiing rather than cycling and look around at how fast things go by, wind feel on your face, where you could turn etc., it seems very slow - I'm sure I've hit at least double that speed on skis. Aye. Thankfully snow is not normally as abrasive as tarmac. Although sometimes just as hard when it's icy! |
Ace wrote:
On Thu, 09 Feb 2006 13:09:15 +0000, BrritSki wrote: Norman wrote: "Ace" wrote in message ... Speeds of up to 100mph are recorded on some of the faster Downhill events on the World Cup circuit, so I'd suspect that your readout was correct and that your friend was misinformed. Excellent. I'll forward this to him in that case. I would agree with Ace. My push-bike has a fairly accurate (I think) speedometer and I occasionally hit 30mph on it down a steep hill. Hah, I've seen 50 on mine. Only once, mind, but I regularly used to get over 40. I too have used this as a comparitive measure for skiing speed. When I was young and foolish I spent most Sundays touring with the CTC and I'll never forget the time we were cycling out of Stow-on-the-Wold and overtook a car as we went down the long hill. We all looked at his speedo which read 40. The look on the driver's face as a pack of a dozen or so cyclists went by him was priceless. I'm sure that with the hills round here above Sanremo I could hit even more than 40, but now I'm old and not quite so foolish :) That seems fast on a bike, but if you imagine you're skiing rather than cycling and look around at how fast things go by, wind feel on your face, where you could turn etc., it seems very slow - I'm sure I've hit at least double that speed on skis. Aye. Thankfully snow is not normally as abrasive as tarmac. Exactly. |
cupra wrote:
BrritSki wrote: Norman wrote: "Ace" wrote in message ... On Thu, 09 Feb 2006 11:38:42 GMT, "Norman" wrote: (snip) Speeds of up to 100mph are recorded on some of the faster Downhill events on the World Cup circuit, so I'd suspect that your readout was correct and that your friend was misinformed. Excellent. I'll forward this to him in that case. I would agree with Ace. My push-bike has a fairly accurate (I think) speedometer and I occasionally hit 30mph on it down a steep hill. That seems fast on a bike, but if you imagine you're skiing rather than cycling and look around at how fast things go by, wind feel on your face, where you could turn etc., it seems very slow - I'm sure I've hit at least double that speed on skis. Kind of explains why it's so painful when you fall :) Haven't fallen at high speed for quite a while now thankfully, which considering how much time I spend at high speed is quite surprising :) |
BrritSki wrote:
cupra wrote: BrritSki wrote: Norman wrote: "Ace" wrote in message ... On Thu, 09 Feb 2006 11:38:42 GMT, "Norman" wrote: (snip) Speeds of up to 100mph are recorded on some of the faster Downhill events on the World Cup circuit, so I'd suspect that your readout was correct and that your friend was misinformed. Excellent. I'll forward this to him in that case. I would agree with Ace. My push-bike has a fairly accurate (I think) speedometer and I occasionally hit 30mph on it down a steep hill. That seems fast on a bike, but if you imagine you're skiing rather than cycling and look around at how fast things go by, wind feel on your face, where you could turn etc., it seems very slow - I'm sure I've hit at least double that speed on skis. Kind of explains why it's so painful when you fall :) Haven't fallen at high speed for quite a while now thankfully, which considering how much time I spend at high speed is quite surprising :) Same here - only time I tend to fall is when I attemp stoopid jumps and rails! |
Norman wrote:
" cupra" wrote in message ... snip Kind of explains why it's so painful when you fall :) Haven't fallen at high speed for quite a while now thankfully, which considering how much time I spend at high speed is quite surprising :) Same here - only time I tend to fall is when I attemp stoopid jumps and rails! I always seem to fall within about 3 seconds of saying to myself, 'damn, I've sure got the hang of this skiiing lark now'. Yep - that seems familiar! |
" cupra" wrote in message ... BrritSki wrote: cupra wrote: BrritSki wrote: Norman wrote: "Ace" wrote in message ... On Thu, 09 Feb 2006 11:38:42 GMT, "Norman" wrote: (snip) Speeds of up to 100mph are recorded on some of the faster Downhill events on the World Cup circuit, so I'd suspect that your readout was correct and that your friend was misinformed. Excellent. I'll forward this to him in that case. I would agree with Ace. My push-bike has a fairly accurate (I think) speedometer and I occasionally hit 30mph on it down a steep hill. That seems fast on a bike, but if you imagine you're skiing rather than cycling and look around at how fast things go by, wind feel on your face, where you could turn etc., it seems very slow - I'm sure I've hit at least double that speed on skis. Kind of explains why it's so painful when you fall :) Haven't fallen at high speed for quite a while now thankfully, which considering how much time I spend at high speed is quite surprising :) Same here - only time I tend to fall is when I attemp stoopid jumps and rails! I always seem to fall within about 3 seconds of saying to myself, 'damn, I've sure got the hang of this skiiing lark now'. |
When I was young and foolish I spent most Sundays touring with the CTC and
I'll never forget the time we were cycling out of Stow-on-the-Wold and overtook a car as we went down the long hill. We all looked at his speedo which read 40. The look on the driver's face as a pack of a dozen or so cyclists went by him was priceless. Once went mountainbiking around pen-y-gent and there is a road with a hill there that is dead straight and goes on for a bit and is supposed to be one of the only places where cyclists can exceed the national speed limit (60 on single lane roads). I myself got upto about 40 but the bike didn't like speed too much and I didn't fancy going any quicker. One of the guys that was with us went for it and put it in top gear and peadeld down as fast as he could and got to 58mph. No cars about though but we were all amazed by his speed. Paul |
On Fri, 10 Feb 2006 08:58:16 +0000, BrritSki
wrote: cupra wrote: BrritSki wrote: Norman wrote: "Ace" wrote in message m... On Thu, 09 Feb 2006 11:38:42 GMT, "Norman" wrote: (snip) Speeds of up to 100mph are recorded on some of the faster Downhill events on the World Cup circuit, so I'd suspect that your readout was correct and that your friend was misinformed. Excellent. I'll forward this to him in that case. I would agree with Ace. My push-bike has a fairly accurate (I think) speedometer and I occasionally hit 30mph on it down a steep hill. That seems fast on a bike, but if you imagine you're skiing rather than cycling and look around at how fast things go by, wind feel on your face, where you could turn etc., it seems very slow - I'm sure I've hit at least double that speed on skis. Kind of explains why it's so painful when you fall :) Haven't fallen at high speed for quite a while now thankfully, which considering how much time I spend at high speed is quite surprising :) I had a real doozy in the Dolomites last month :-( I'm not sure how fast I was going, but it was faster than I intended, and faster than I can really cope with safely :-( I went over on my front, and left skis and poles strewn 50 yards up the slope. Bruised ribs was my only injury, and not too badly bruised. -- Alex Heney, Global Villager The road to success is always under construction. To reply by email, my address is alexATheneyDOTplusDOTcom |
Felly sgrifennodd Norman :
" cupra" wrote in message My problems my knees - they only allow me 1/2 day of full on boarding these days before I have to take it a little easier! (next holiday is planned for NZ next August so plenty of time to get them seen to!) Good luck. I know a particularly attractive seasonaire who'll be in NZ in August. Is boarding harder or easier on the knees do you think? Tendonitis in my knee made me stop playing football a few years ago and it flares up if I do much running, but to my eternal joy and amazement it doesn't seem to mind skiing at all. Phew. If that's the same thing as Cyclist's knee, then yes I suffer too. Used to often go cycling 100+ miles a day, apparently I overused my knees. It does cause problems at times on long walks, but like you it never causes a problem skiing. I only tried snowboarding twice, in the days before soft boot. But the second time my knees didn't like it. Maybe Cupra should switch to skiing? Adrian -- Adrian Shaw ais@ Adran Cyfrifiadureg, Prifysgol Cymru, aber. Aberystwyth, Ceredigion, Cymru ac. http://users.aber.ac.uk/ais uk |
Adrian D. Shaw wrote:
Felly sgrifennodd Norman : " cupra" wrote in message My problems my knees - they only allow me 1/2 day of full on boarding these days before I have to take it a little easier! (next holiday is planned for NZ next August so plenty of time to get them seen to!) Good luck. I know a particularly attractive seasonaire who'll be in NZ in August. Is boarding harder or easier on the knees do you think? Tendonitis in my knee made me stop playing football a few years ago and it flares up if I do much running, but to my eternal joy and amazement it doesn't seem to mind skiing at all. Phew. If that's the same thing as Cyclist's knee, then yes I suffer too. Used to often go cycling 100+ miles a day, apparently I overused my knees. It does cause problems at times on long walks, but like you it never causes a problem skiing. I only tried snowboarding twice, in the days before soft boot. But the second time my knees didn't like it. Maybe Cupra should switch to skiing? Adrian I skied for 10 years before boarding - boarding (was) far easier on my knees until recently! |
"Adrian D. Shaw" wrote in message ... Felly sgrifennodd Norman : " cupra" wrote in message My problems my knees - they only allow me 1/2 day of full on boarding these days before I have to take it a little easier! (next holiday is planned for NZ next August so plenty of time to get them seen to!) Good luck. I know a particularly attractive seasonaire who'll be in NZ in August. Is boarding harder or easier on the knees do you think? Tendonitis in my knee made me stop playing football a few years ago and it flares up if I do much running, but to my eternal joy and amazement it doesn't seem to mind skiing at all. Phew. If that's the same thing as Cyclist's knee, then yes I suffer too. Used to often go cycling 100+ miles a day, apparently I overused my knees. It does cause problems at times on long walks, but like you it never causes a problem skiing. I only tried snowboarding twice, in the days before soft boot. But the second time my knees didn't like it. Maybe Cupra should switch to skiing? Everyone should switch to skiing. Was on a chairlift in Morzine last week trying to work out the boarder/skier ratio. It was easy to do as generally, all the people moving were skiers and all the people boarding were sat down somewhere in the middle of the piste. It was roughly around 20:1. |
Norman wrote:
"Adrian D. Shaw" wrote in message ... Felly sgrifennodd Norman : " cupra" wrote in message My problems my knees - they only allow me 1/2 day of full on boarding these days before I have to take it a little easier! (next holiday is planned for NZ next August so plenty of time to get them seen to!) Good luck. I know a particularly attractive seasonaire who'll be in NZ in August. Is boarding harder or easier on the knees do you think? Tendonitis in my knee made me stop playing football a few years ago and it flares up if I do much running, but to my eternal joy and amazement it doesn't seem to mind skiing at all. Phew. If that's the same thing as Cyclist's knee, then yes I suffer too. Used to often go cycling 100+ miles a day, apparently I overused my knees. It does cause problems at times on long walks, but like you it never causes a problem skiing. I only tried snowboarding twice, in the days before soft boot. But the second time my knees didn't like it. Maybe Cupra should switch to skiing? Everyone should switch to skiing. Was on a chairlift in Morzine last week trying to work out the boarder/skier ratio. It was easy to do as generally, all the people moving were skiers and all the people boarding were sat down somewhere in the middle of the piste. It was roughly around 20:1. It's opposite off piste where the real fun is :) |
On Fri, 10 Feb 2006 15:02:41 -0000, " cupra"
wrote: Norman wrote: Was on a chairlift in Morzine last week trying to work out the boarder/skier ratio. It was easy to do as generally, all the people moving were skiers and all the people boarding were sat down somewhere in the middle of the piste. It was roughly around 20:1. It's opposite off piste where the real fun is :) Rubbish. When doing serious off-piste routes, it's quite rare to see boarders, as there tends to be at least a bit of poleing, long traverses and flat terrain. I know a few guys that would be happy doing this sort of thing on boards, but the vast majority that you see slightly off-piste don't tend to venture much further afield. -- Ace (brucedotrogers a.t rochedotcom) Ski Club of Great Britain - http://www.skiclub.co.uk All opinions expressed are personal and in no way represent those of the Ski Club. |
"Ace" wrote in message ... On Fri, 10 Feb 2006 15:02:41 -0000, " cupra" wrote: Norman wrote: Was on a chairlift in Morzine last week trying to work out the boarder/skier ratio. It was easy to do as generally, all the people moving were skiers and all the people boarding were sat down somewhere in the middle of the piste. It was roughly around 20:1. It's opposite off piste where the real fun is :) Haven't done much off piste yet. From my limited understanding it seems having one great fat plank between your legs instead of two skinny ones might be an advantage in deep powder? Should I rephrase that? Rubbish. When doing serious off-piste routes, it's quite rare to see boarders, as there tends to be at least a bit of poleing, long traverses and flat terrain. I know a few guys that would be happy doing this sort of thing on boards, but the vast majority that you see slightly off-piste don't tend to venture much further afield. Changing the subject slightly, I can't help thinking that someone cleverer than me could make a lot of money for inventing some little outboard motor for skis or board that could kick in on flat bits or when wanting to go back uphill without the need of a lift. Feel free to nick my idea but I would like ten per cent. -- Ace (brucedotrogers a.t rochedotcom) Ski Club of Great Britain - http://www.skiclub.co.uk All opinions expressed are personal and in no way represent those of the Ski Club. |
" cupra" wrote in message ... Ace wrote: On Fri, 10 Feb 2006 15:02:41 -0000, " cupra" wrote: Norman wrote: Was on a chairlift in Morzine last week trying to work out the boarder/skier ratio. It was easy to do as generally, all the people moving were skiers and all the people boarding were sat down somewhere in the middle of the piste. It was roughly around 20:1. It's opposite off piste where the real fun is :) Rubbish. Tongue in cheek - hence the smiley! When doing serious off-piste routes, it's quite rare to see boarders, as there tends to be at least a bit of poleing, long traverses and flat terrain. I know a few guys that would be happy doing this sort of thing on boards, but the vast majority that you see slightly off-piste don't tend to venture much further afield. I was seriously looking at a split board myself the other day in Banff before my better half reminded me we're about to buy a Rayburn! What's wrong with an Aga? |
Ace wrote:
On Fri, 10 Feb 2006 15:02:41 -0000, " cupra" wrote: Norman wrote: Was on a chairlift in Morzine last week trying to work out the boarder/skier ratio. It was easy to do as generally, all the people moving were skiers and all the people boarding were sat down somewhere in the middle of the piste. It was roughly around 20:1. It's opposite off piste where the real fun is :) Rubbish. Tongue in cheek - hence the smiley! When doing serious off-piste routes, it's quite rare to see boarders, as there tends to be at least a bit of poleing, long traverses and flat terrain. I know a few guys that would be happy doing this sort of thing on boards, but the vast majority that you see slightly off-piste don't tend to venture much further afield. I was seriously looking at a split board myself the other day in Banff before my better half reminded me we're about to buy a Rayburn! |
Norman wrote:
"Ace" wrote in message ... On Fri, 10 Feb 2006 15:02:41 -0000, " cupra" wrote: Norman wrote: Was on a chairlift in Morzine last week trying to work out the boarder/skier ratio. It was easy to do as generally, all the people moving were skiers and all the people boarding were sat down somewhere in the middle of the piste. It was roughly around 20:1. It's opposite off piste where the real fun is :) Haven't done much off piste yet. From my limited understanding it seems having one great fat plank between your legs instead of two skinny ones might be an advantage in deep powder? Should I rephrase that? Rubbish. When doing serious off-piste routes, it's quite rare to see boarders, as there tends to be at least a bit of poleing, long traverses and flat terrain. I know a few guys that would be happy doing this sort of thing on boards, but the vast majority that you see slightly off-piste don't tend to venture much further afield. Changing the subject slightly, I can't help thinking that someone cleverer than me could make a lot of money for inventing some little outboard motor for skis or board that could kick in on flat bits or when wanting to go back uphill without the need of a lift. Feel free to nick my idea but I would like ten per cent. I've thought about that myself, but I think the mass of kit would outweigh(!) the advantage! |
Norman wrote:
" cupra" wrote in message ... Ace wrote: On Fri, 10 Feb 2006 15:02:41 -0000, " cupra" wrote: Norman wrote: Was on a chairlift in Morzine last week trying to work out the boarder/skier ratio. It was easy to do as generally, all the people moving were skiers and all the people boarding were sat down somewhere in the middle of the piste. It was roughly around 20:1. It's opposite off piste where the real fun is :) Rubbish. Tongue in cheek - hence the smiley! When doing serious off-piste routes, it's quite rare to see boarders, as there tends to be at least a bit of poleing, long traverses and flat terrain. I know a few guys that would be happy doing this sort of thing on boards, but the vast majority that you see slightly off-piste don't tend to venture much further afield. I was seriously looking at a split board myself the other day in Banff before my better half reminded me we're about to buy a Rayburn! What's wrong with an Aga? Don't mind either - ebay seems to have a larger percentage of Rayburns for sale at the moment, and I have to get cracking before building regs change! |
On Fri, 10 Feb 2006 15:12:23 GMT, "Norman"
wrote: On Fri, 10 Feb 2006 15:02:41 -0000, " cupra" wrote: Norman wrote: Was on a chairlift in Morzine last week trying to work out the boarder/skier ratio. It was roughly around 20:1. It's opposite off piste where the real fun is :) Haven't done much off piste yet. From my limited understanding it seems having one great fat plank between your legs instead of two skinny ones might be an advantage in deep powder? If you've seen the latest generation of 'freeride' skis you'll realise that a pair of them is almost as wide as a snowboard, which with the extra length will give them as much 'float' as a board. It does, of course, demand more skill, but then that's just another way in which we can feel all superior ;-) -- Ace (brucedotrogers a.t rochedotcom) Ski Club of Great Britain - http://www.skiclub.co.uk All opinions expressed are personal and in no way represent those of the Ski Club. |
On Fri, 10 Feb 2006 15:13:29 GMT, "Norman"
wrote: " cupra" wrote in message ... Ace wrote: On Fri, 10 Feb 2006 15:02:41 -0000, " cupra" wrote: Norman wrote: Was on a chairlift in Morzine last week trying to work out the boarder/skier ratio. It was easy to do as generally, all the people moving were skiers and all the people boarding were sat down somewhere in the middle of the piste. It was roughly around 20:1. It's opposite off piste where the real fun is :) Rubbish. Tongue in cheek - hence the smiley! When doing serious off-piste routes, it's quite rare to see boarders, as there tends to be at least a bit of poleing, long traverses and flat terrain. I know a few guys that would be happy doing this sort of thing on boards, but the vast majority that you see slightly off-piste don't tend to venture much further afield. I was seriously looking at a split board myself the other day in Banff before my better half reminded me we're about to buy a Rayburn! What's wrong with an Aga? It depends on what you want it for. They are the same company, and generally Rayburns include Central Heating capacity (some don't), while Agas are just cookers. -- Alex Heney, Global Villager Modern man is the missing link between apes and human beings. To reply by email, my address is alexATheneyDOTplusDOTcom |
"Alex Heney" wrote in message ... On Fri, 10 Feb 2006 15:13:29 GMT, "Norman" wrote: " cupra" wrote in message ... Ace wrote: On Fri, 10 Feb 2006 15:02:41 -0000, " cupra" wrote: Norman wrote: Was on a chairlift in Morzine last week trying to work out the boarder/skier ratio. It was easy to do as generally, all the people moving were skiers and all the people boarding were sat down somewhere in the middle of the piste. It was roughly around 20:1. It's opposite off piste where the real fun is :) Rubbish. Tongue in cheek - hence the smiley! When doing serious off-piste routes, it's quite rare to see boarders, as there tends to be at least a bit of poleing, long traverses and flat terrain. I know a few guys that would be happy doing this sort of thing on boards, but the vast majority that you see slightly off-piste don't tend to venture much further afield. I was seriously looking at a split board myself the other day in Banff before my better half reminded me we're about to buy a Rayburn! What's wrong with an Aga? It depends on what you want it for. They are the same company, and generally Rayburns include Central Heating capacity (some don't), while Agas are just cookers. Agas can also run your hot water. Not sure about the heating. -- Alex Heney, Global Villager Modern man is the missing link between apes and human beings. To reply by email, my address is alexATheneyDOTplusDOTcom |
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