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John Rogers January 16th 05 05:08 PM

Snowboarders...losers???
 
Snowboarders frighten and confuse me. Sometimes I see them riding
their "boards" from my seat in the lodge and they just seem revel in
getting in the way of the normal skiers. I wish they could get
haircuts and join society, because someday, they are going to run the
country.

The really scary ones are the ones with all of their "bling" and their
ghetto-blasters who play their "groovy" music at an increased volume.
I wouldn't turn up my Waylon Jennings CD's up and disturb other people
on the slopes. Why do you people feel like you have the right to do
so?

Please, think about what I've said.

JR
Norman, OK

Terje Johan Abrahamsen January 16th 05 08:30 PM


"John Rogers" wrote in message
...
Snowboarders frighten and confuse me. Sometimes I see them riding
their "boards" from my seat in the lodge and they just seem revel in
getting in the way of the normal skiers. I wish they could get
haircuts and join society, because someday, they are going to run the
country.

The really scary ones are the ones with all of their "bling" and their
ghetto-blasters who play their "groovy" music at an increased volume.
I wouldn't turn up my Waylon Jennings CD's up and disturb other people
on the slopes. Why do you people feel like you have the right to do
so?

Please, think about what I've said.


Congratulations.... You win the prize for 'Troll of the day'....



Mekun January 16th 05 08:40 PM

On Sun, 16 Jan 2005 13:08:40 -0500, John Rogers
wrote:

Snowboarders frighten and confuse me. Sometimes I see them riding
their "boards" from my seat in the lodge and they just seem revel in
getting in the way of the normal skiers. I wish they could get
haircuts and join society, because someday, they are going to run the
country.

The really scary ones are the ones with all of their "bling" and their
ghetto-blasters who play their "groovy" music at an increased volume.
I wouldn't turn up my Waylon Jennings CD's up and disturb other people
on the slopes. Why do you people feel like you have the right to do
so?

Please, think about what I've said.

JR
Norman, OK




Hahahahaha nice. Troll anyone?

Bryan S. Crothers January 16th 05 08:46 PM

[Mekun )]
[Sun, 16 Jan 2005 13:40:33 -0800]

:On Sun, 16 Jan 2005 13:08:40 -0500, John Rogers
:wrote:
:
:Snowboarders frighten and confuse me. Sometimes I see them riding
:their "boards" from my seat in the lodge and they just seem revel in
:getting in the way of the normal skiers. I wish they could get
:haircuts and join society, because someday, they are going to run the
:country.
:
:The really scary ones are the ones with all of their "bling" and their
:ghetto-blasters who play their "groovy" music at an increased volume.
:I wouldn't turn up my Waylon Jennings CD's up and disturb other people
:on the slopes. Why do you people feel like you have the right to do
:so?
:
:Please, think about what I've said.
:
:JR
:Norman, OK
:
:
:
:Hahahahaha nice. Troll anyone?

None for me, please.. I'm trying to quit.

Getting pretty sick of the morons from RSS, myself. Their envy of what
we've got here on our newsgroup is sickening and sad. Losers.

--
Bryan S. Crothers, onyx_hokie at yahoo dot com

"You either do or you don't believe, that it can or can't be done.
An ounce of faith and a touch of grace, and it can happen.. to anyone."

[Lonestar, "From There To Here"]

John Rogers January 16th 05 09:15 PM

Yeah, "Terje Johan Abrahamsen" , well...
that's just like... your opinion man.


"John Rogers" wrote in message
.. .
Snowboarders frighten and confuse me. Sometimes I see them riding
their "boards" from my seat in the lodge and they just seem revel in
getting in the way of the normal skiers. I wish they could get
haircuts and join society, because someday, they are going to run the
country.

The really scary ones are the ones with all of their "bling" and their
ghetto-blasters who play their "groovy" music at an increased volume.
I wouldn't turn up my Waylon Jennings CD's up and disturb other people
on the slopes. Why do you people feel like you have the right to do
so?

Please, think about what I've said.


Congratulations.... You win the prize for 'Troll of the day'....


Oh, now that's really mature calling people names and stuff all I'm
trying to do is understand why you people feel like you must act like
anachronists all the time with the crotch of your pants down to your
knees. I don't get it.

You people could use some Bibel.



Matthew Hennig January 16th 05 09:15 PM

Mekun wrote in
:

On Sun, 16 Jan 2005 13:08:40 -0500, John Rogers
wrote:

Snowboarders frighten and confuse me. Sometimes I see them riding
their "boards" from my seat in the lodge and they just seem revel in
getting in the way of the normal skiers. I wish they could get
haircuts and join society, because someday, they are going to run the
country.

The really scary ones are the ones with all of their "bling" and their
ghetto-blasters who play their "groovy" music at an increased volume.
I wouldn't turn up my Waylon Jennings CD's up and disturb other people
on the slopes. Why do you people feel like you have the right to do
so?

Please, think about what I've said.

JR
Norman, OK




Hahahahaha nice. Troll anyone?


Look at the facts here. Snowboarders are more likely to be involved with
drugs than the average person. Snowboarders are also more likely to be
involved in vandalism. If you don't recognize the problem, then take
your blinders off. And then the fact that I can't enjoy the slopes in
peace because the snow boarders start blaring their "X-treme" music, its
just wrong. I think JR raised some valid points here and trying to
ignore them like you are trying to do won't make them go away.

MH
Denver, CO
Where we always walk a mile high.

Matthew Hennig January 16th 05 09:18 PM

John Rogers wrote in
:

Yeah, "Terje Johan Abrahamsen" , well...
that's just like... your opinion man.


"John Rogers" wrote in message
. ..
Snowboarders frighten and confuse me. Sometimes I see them riding
their "boards" from my seat in the lodge and they just seem revel in
getting in the way of the normal skiers. I wish they could get
haircuts and join society, because someday, they are going to run
the country.

The really scary ones are the ones with all of their "bling" and
their ghetto-blasters who play their "groovy" music at an increased
volume. I wouldn't turn up my Waylon Jennings CD's up and disturb
other people on the slopes. Why do you people feel like you have the
right to do so?

Please, think about what I've said.


Congratulations.... You win the prize for 'Troll of the day'....


Oh, now that's really mature calling people names and stuff all I'm
trying to do is understand why you people feel like you must act like
anachronists all the time with the crotch of your pants down to your
knees. I don't get it.

You people could use some Bibel.


John, the fact is, these guys are interested in only drugs and causing
problems. Its sad that the youth today are doing this.

MH
Denver, CO
Where we always walk a mile high.

Saim Kim January 16th 05 10:01 PM

Look at the facts here. Snowboarders are more likely to be involved with
drugs than the average person. Snowboarders are also more likely to be
involved in vandalism. If you don't recognize the problem, then take
your blinders off.


So what`s your point? I think you are generalizing way too much! Who`s that
average person you are comparing snowboarders with? The nice 40-50 year old
father of 1.5 children? The point is, that most snowboarders are teenagers!
And yes, teenagers tend to be involved with drugs "than the average person"!
But so are age skiers! And about the vandalism: how do you define vandalism?
Destroying thing like... what? I think you are comparing with different
degrees of perception ie prejudice.

Non-smoking, non-drinking and non-vandalizing Snowboarder,
Saim

P.s.: There has been a study about growing stork populations and growing
number of babies in Austria. But guess what: "obvious" things don`t mean any
real correlation! ;-)



Waco Paco January 16th 05 11:21 PM

Matthew Hennig wrote:

John Rogers wrote in
:


Yeah, "Terje Johan Abrahamsen" , well...
that's just like... your opinion man.


"John Rogers" wrote in message
...

Snowboarders frighten and confuse me. Sometimes I see them riding
their "boards" from my seat in the lodge and they just seem revel in
getting in the way of the normal skiers. I wish they could get
haircuts and join society, because someday, they are going to run
the country.

The really scary ones are the ones with all of their "bling" and
their ghetto-blasters who play their "groovy" music at an increased
volume. I wouldn't turn up my Waylon Jennings CD's up and disturb
other people on the slopes. Why do you people feel like you have the
right to do so?

Please, think about what I've said.

Congratulations.... You win the prize for 'Troll of the day'....


Oh, now that's really mature calling people names and stuff all I'm
trying to do is understand why you people feel like you must act like
anachronists all the time with the crotch of your pants down to your
knees. I don't get it.

You people could use some Bibel.



John, the fact is, these guys are interested in only drugs and causing
problems. Its sad that the youth today are doing this.

MH
Denver, CO
Where we always walk a mile high.



HA, listen to yourselves! If my university has taught me anything, it is
to critically analyze people's arguments. Calling people names are
immature, but so is generalizing a group of people with the acts of
some! Yes, most of the snowboarders out there are teenagers, but I have
to disagree with your other generalization of snowboarders from your
limited experience and maybe tinted glasses. Your crude generalization
of snowboarders disgust me.

1. You tend to assume that all snowboarders revel in cutting across
skiers paths. I have seen many skiers cut across other skiers and
snowboarders and an equal amount of snowboarders doing the same. What
does that mean? It means that type of equipment has no saying in that
behaviour. However, if you look at the age group you'll see that most of
the inconsiderate are teenagers. I have been the victim of young skiers
cutting across a merger zone because they were reckless. Therefore it
can be established that the equipment has little saying on behaviour but
rather it is directly proportionate to demographic.

2. Haircuts or fashion have nothing to do with bad behaviour. I have
many friends who has "extreme" haircuts (mohawks, pink dye, dreads) who
are the most active people in school and community. Just because their
life style choices are different than yours doesn't mean they are less
equiped to function in society.

3. Joining society is a good thing. Your statement insinuates that those
who don't join society are bad people. Nelson Mandella did not join the
Apartheid society, and he is not bad. Sometimes lifestyle choices are
reflection of their attitude towards modern society. Punk rock in the
late 70's and early 80's stems from the youth's distrust over
government. Just because you are part of society, it doesn't mean that
you are better than others. In fact these others are excercising their
democratic rights by expressing themselves in a non-violent manner.

4. The bibel is spelled Bible (watch the capital B). No doubt the Bible
is a good book that many can learn from. Love for thy neighbour would be
a good one to learn for those inconsiderate ones. However, when you read
it you have to understand that Jesus was also a revolutionary, or even
anarchist if you will. He did not care for the Romans. Just because you
"don't get it" doesn't mean its a bad thing. A lot of people in Jesus'
time didn't get his teachings. They thought he was trying to usurp
leaders of Judaism and they put him to death. I know what you don't
understand can be frightening, so why don't you try and understand why
people have pants down to their crotch. Maybe then you can explain to
them why you look the way you do.

5. Passing judgement on others you don't even understand seems a little
prejudiced. "Us people" are commonly linked by our love for the sport of
snowboarding. What some snowboarders tend to do does not represent the
others who do not. You wouldn't judge the bulk of the snowboarding
community because of some punk on a snowboard that cut you off, would
you? Is it right to say that all Asians are good at math? or that all
Africans are violent? or snowboarders are assholes?

6. MH, the fact is that you have nothing to base your fact on. These
people you talk of, I assume, are snowboarders. However, I see many
young skiers who do the same. I also see many older skiers who do the
same. Also your assumption that these people are all youths is flawed.
Come by rec.skiing.snowboard and you'll see that that we are not all
youths. There are plenty middle aged snowboarders here (although I'm not
one of them). And for the last point, your assumption that the youth of
today are into drugs and destruction is also unfounded. I see many
youths out there not into drugs and destruction.

The rivalry between skiers and snowboarders is predominantly fueled by
the generalization of each group's perspective on the other. What I have
exhibited here is that presumptions about the other group only causes
animosity and serves only to widen the rift between the 2 sport. I think
it is time that people like you open up to the other group and try to
understand the differences and what truly makes up for the bad behaviour
on the slope. Ask yourself this question: does strapping a snowboard on
automatically make you a worse person than a skier? I hope that your
answer is NO and begin to see that there are other factors that make up
for these bad behaviour you see.

Waco Paco January 16th 05 11:31 PM

Matthew Hennig wrote:

snip


Look at the facts here. Snowboarders are more likely to be involved with
drugs than the average person. Snowboarders are also more likely to be
involved in vandalism. If you don't recognize the problem, then take
your blinders off. And then the fact that I can't enjoy the slopes in
peace because the snow boarders start blaring their "X-treme" music, its
just wrong. I think JR raised some valid points here and trying to
ignore them like you are trying to do won't make them go away.

MH
Denver, CO
Where we always walk a mile high.


Your self righteousness makes me wanna puke. Trying to pass off as
superior isn't going to solve any problem. Maybe you should try being
constructive as oppose to being destructive. Why don't you offer your
ideas on where these problems stem from. Wait, you already did. You
loosely pinned it on snowboarders.

Let me make some similar accusations. Skiers are all pricks, they don't
do drugs but like to drink irresponsibly, especially apres ski. All
skiers are self righteous. Skiers like to point all problems at
snowboarders. Skiers can't handle powder.

WOW, that was easy!! I never thought that it was so easy just making
generalizations that may or may not hold up to even half of all skiers!
I think I will use this approach more often to argue my points. (I hope
you understand that this whole paragraph was sarcastic).

JR did bring up some valid points that there are assholes on the hill,
but to pin it on snowboarders is low, below the belt low. Like you said,
trying to ignore the facts won't make these problems go away, BUT trying
to pass the blame on some other group won't either.

stu

John Rogers January 17th 05 12:12 AM

Yeah, Waco Paco , well... that's just
like... your opinion man.

Matthew Hennig wrote:

snip


Look at the facts here. Snowboarders are more likely to be involved with
drugs than the average person. Snowboarders are also more likely to be
involved in vandalism. If you don't recognize the problem, then take
your blinders off. And then the fact that I can't enjoy the slopes in
peace because the snow boarders start blaring their "X-treme" music, its
just wrong. I think JR raised some valid points here and trying to
ignore them like you are trying to do won't make them go away.

MH
Denver, CO
Where we always walk a mile high.


Your self righteousness makes me wanna puke. Trying to pass off as
superior isn't going to solve any problem. Maybe you should try being
constructive as oppose to being destructive. Why don't you offer your
ideas on where these problems stem from. Wait, you already did. You
loosely pinned it on snowboarders.

Let me make some similar accusations. Skiers are all pricks, they don't
do drugs but like to drink irresponsibly, especially apres ski. All
skiers are self righteous. Skiers like to point all problems at
snowboarders. Skiers can't handle powder.

WOW, that was easy!! I never thought that it was so easy just making
generalizations that may or may not hold up to even half of all skiers!
I think I will use this approach more often to argue my points. (I hope
you understand that this whole paragraph was sarcastic).

JR did bring up some valid points that there are assholes on the hill,
but to pin it on snowboarders is low, below the belt low. Like you said,
trying to ignore the facts won't make these problems go away, BUT trying
to pass the blame on some other group won't either.

stu


I agree stu. I didn' t meen to inseminate that all snowboarders were
bad people I just think that if you tried to fit in a little better to
civilized society instead of playing to be the outsidert than it would
be easier for you "radical doods" to be accepted. I also don't
understand why snowboarders get angry at me for pointing out how they
are different when they try so hard to be different I just think
that's funy!!! And MH needs to get off his high horse cause I'm purdy
sure I read in Bibel that self-righteousness is a sin.

JR
Norman, OK

winnard January 17th 05 12:16 AM


"John Rogers" wrote in message
...
Snowboarders frighten and confuse me. Sometimes I see them riding
their "boards" from my seat in the lodge and they just seem revel in
getting in the way of the normal skiers. I wish they could get
haircuts and join society, because someday, they are going to run the
country.

The really scary ones are the ones with all of their "bling" and their
ghetto-blasters who play their "groovy" music at an increased volume.
I wouldn't turn up my Waylon Jennings CD's up and disturb other people
on the slopes. Why do you people feel like you have the right to do
so?

Please, think about what I've said.

JR
Norman, OK


Dude, how'd you get snow in Norman?


winnard



[email protected] January 17th 05 02:03 AM

That's "insinuate" JR, not inseminate; insemination has to do with,
ahem, something else.

If one focuses on the jerks, it's not hard to have them fill your field
of vision. The punks will figure it out, or not. Most of them, if you
can get them one on one, are largely lost & lonely, and are simply
looking for a look. White suburbanites w/the money to buy gear & lift
tickets trying to go hip hop is pathetic, that's all.

Teenagers have been trying to be "different" for about, oh, 2000 years.
Having folks get upset w/them is all they're trying to accomplish;
looks like they're succeeding. Personally, I'll take the punks over
the excessively rich clowns I've run into @ the plush joints.

BTW; I'm 51 years old, been boarding for 9 years, & have yet to find a
mountain that wasn't big enough for everyone. My solution to punk
noise is an iPod turned up to maximum volume w/ Mozart.


Zaphod Beeblebrox January 17th 05 02:06 AM

Waco Paco wrote:
Matthew Hennig wrote:


el snippo

HA, listen to yourselves! If my university has taught me anything, it is
to critically analyze people's arguments. Calling people names are
immature, but so is generalizing a group of people with the acts of
some! Yes, most of the snowboarders out there are teenagers, but I have
to disagree with your other generalization of snowboarders from your
limited experience and maybe tinted glasses. Your crude generalization
of snowboarders disgust me.


Ohmigod! Sweet Jeebus - where do I begin????
There is so much to respond to and so little time!


OK - let's just focus on 1.0 below...

1. You tend to assume that all snowboarders revel in cutting across
skiers paths.


He did NOT assume that - please go back and re-read the passage.

I have seen many skiers cut across other skiers and
snowboarders and an equal amount of snowboarders doing the same. What
does that mean? It means that type of equipment has no saying in that
behaviour.


No it doesn't - it just means that you need to start taking some more
English classes. I mean, take that very first sentence - what the
sweet **** does it mean?1! "Amount of snowboarders" you say??????
Snowboarders are not salt or sugar - you say "NUMBER of snowboarders!"
And it's "has no say" not "has no saying in that beaviour." And it's
spelt "behaviour" not "behavior."

However, if you look at the age group you'll see that most of
the inconsiderate are teenagers. I have been the victim of young skiers
cutting across a merger zone because they were reckless.


As a teenager I deeply resent your insinuations.


Therefore it
can be established that the equipment has little saying on behaviour but
rather it is directly proportionate to demographic.


As a famous rightwinger once said "There you go again!"
"Directly proportionate to edmolgraphic?"
Please translate....

Mike M. Miskulin January 17th 05 02:37 AM

John Rogers wrote in
:

Snowboarders frighten and confuse me. Sometimes I see them riding
their "boards" from my seat in the lodge and they just seem revel

in getting in the way of the normal skiers. I wish they could get
haircuts and join society, because someday, they are going to run

the country.

Quite the troll you are. Why are you sitting in the lodge? You
must be the typical skiier who can't manage to make mroe than
3 turns before stopping in the middle of the run to catch their
breath and generally jerk around?

Sorry John I've got a buzz cut and yes, I already run the country.

The really scary ones are the ones with all of their "bling" and

their ghetto-blasters who play their "groovy" music at an increased
volume.I wouldn't turn up my Waylon Jennings CD's up and disturb
other people on the slopes. Why do you people feel like you have the
right to do so?

This must be something new on those big mountains in Norman, OK.
Boarders riding with ghetto boxes on their shoulders!

Please, think about what I've said.


I'm trying not to as you are either:

a) a troll
b) your teenage son posting from your account


A check from deja shows your older id's as:




And with the exception of this post and a very few others you
never leave r.s.college.football Please go back there.

And by the way.. for somebody who sure seems to know a real
lot about strip clubs and which ones have drugs and nasty
diseases, should you really be pontificating about boarders?


From: John Rogers )
Subject: Fort Benning,Columbus GA.Victory Way Whats it like????

View this article only
Newsgroups: alt.sex.strip-clubs
Date: 1996/08/03

bruce c. sneddon wrote:

I read in a Moon guide that there are 100s
sexy places for the big military base there
in victory way highway south of Columbus
if so whats it like?
Is it worth visitimng from overseas?


I grew up in Columbus. Live in Atlanta now, but still have occasion
to return home and
while I'm there I visit the clubs to relax a bit.

The strip-clubs in South Columbus (off of Vistory Drive) tend to run
to the sleazy and
occasionally dangerous. Prostitution and drugs are commonly found in
these
establishments. The dancers and/or management will often times try to
rip you off on
buying drinks or dances. This happens more often in the Victory Drive
clubs due to there
proximity to the Army base. Bilking servicemen out of their hard-
earned money has become
a way of life in that area of the city. You can, however,
occasionally get some sleazy
performances for your money in this area.

The best club in town is called The Platinum Club and is located off
of the Manchester
Expressway within sight of the airport. It is a totally nude club
with a $5 cover after
7:00 P.M. (free before). Drinks average $4-$5 and beer $3 (domestic).
Table dances are
$5. So prices are reasonable. Lap dancing and touching are not
allowed due to local
ordinances/laws. It's a small place and the atmosphere and the girls
are friendly. Girls
looks range from average to very pretty. Chelsea, however, is a 5-2,
100 lb. knockout.
Ask for her if you go there on a Friday or Saturday night. Debbie is
very pretty, great
dancer, and great company. You can't go wrong with her either.

Another club in town is The Forum Club off of the Beallwood
Connector. Haven't been
there in some time but it used to be a decent establishment and you
might want to check
it out.

Just one last warning about the South Columbus clubs: if you decide
to go there guard
your wallet carefully. It doesn't happen with great frequency, but
don't ever let your
guard down in that area.

Enjoy...


JMR

John Rogers January 17th 05 02:56 AM

Yeah, "Mike M. Miskulin" , well... that's just
like... your opinion man.

John Rogers wrote in
:

Snowboarders frighten and confuse me. Sometimes I see them riding
their "boards" from my seat in the lodge and they just seem revel

in getting in the way of the normal skiers. I wish they could get
haircuts and join society, because someday, they are going to run

the country.

Quite the troll you are. Why are you sitting in the lodge? You
must be the typical skiier who can't manage to make mroe than
3 turns before stopping in the middle of the run to catch their
breath and generally jerk around?

Sorry John I've got a buzz cut and yes, I already run the country.

The really scary ones are the ones with all of their "bling" and

their ghetto-blasters who play their "groovy" music at an increased
volume.I wouldn't turn up my Waylon Jennings CD's up and disturb
other people on the slopes. Why do you people feel like you have the
right to do so?

This must be something new on those big mountains in Norman, OK.
Boarders riding with ghetto boxes on their shoulders!

Please, think about what I've said.


I'm trying not to as you are either:

a) a troll
b) your teenage son posting from your account


A check from deja shows your older id's as:




And with the exception of this post and a very few others you
never leave r.s.college.football Please go back there.

And by the way.. for somebody who sure seems to know a real
lot about strip clubs and which ones have drugs and nasty
diseases, should you really be pontificating about boarders?


So you seem to think it's a bad thing to do our best to save our
country's brave Fighting Soldiers from fraud and/or disease? Why do
you hate America?

JR
Norman, OK

winnard January 17th 05 03:02 AM


"Mike M. Miskulin" wrote in message
. 3.44...

I grew up in Columbus. Live in Atlanta now, but still have occasion
to return home and
while I'm there I visit the clubs to relax a bit.

The strip-clubs in South Columbus (off of Vistory Drive) tend to run
to the sleazy and
occasionally dangerous. Prostitution and drugs are commonly found in
these
establishments. The dancers and/or management will often times try to
rip you off on
buying drinks or dances. This happens more often in the Victory Drive
clubs due to there
proximity to the Army base. Bilking servicemen out of their hard-
earned money has become
a way of life in that area of the city. You can, however,
occasionally get some sleazy
performances for your money in this area.

The best club in town is called The Platinum Club and is located off
of the Manchester
Expressway within sight of the airport. It is a totally nude club
with a $5 cover after
7:00 P.M. (free before). Drinks average $4-$5 and beer $3 (domestic).
Table dances are
$5. So prices are reasonable. Lap dancing and touching are not
allowed due to local
ordinances/laws. It's a small place and the atmosphere and the girls
are friendly. Girls
looks range from average to very pretty. Chelsea, however, is a 5-2,
100 lb. knockout.
Ask for her if you go there on a Friday or Saturday night. Debbie is
very pretty, great
dancer, and great company. You can't go wrong with her either.

Another club in town is The Forum Club off of the Beallwood
Connector. Haven't been
there in some time but it used to be a decent establishment and you
might want to check
it out.

Just one last warning about the South Columbus clubs: if you decide
to go there guard
your wallet carefully. It doesn't happen with great frequency, but
don't ever let your
guard down in that area.

Enjoy...


Dude, if this is your sig, you need to get a life.


winnard



Matthew Hennig January 17th 05 03:04 AM

Waco Paco wrote in
:

Matthew Hennig wrote:

snip


Look at the facts here. Snowboarders are more likely to be involved
with drugs than the average person. Snowboarders are also more
likely to be involved in vandalism. If you don't recognize the
problem, then take your blinders off. And then the fact that I can't
enjoy the slopes in peace because the snow boarders start blaring
their "X-treme" music, its just wrong. I think JR raised some valid
points here and trying to ignore them like you are trying to do won't
make them go away.

MH
Denver, CO
Where we always walk a mile high.


Your self righteousness makes me wanna puke. Trying to pass off as
superior isn't going to solve any problem. Maybe you should try being
constructive as oppose to being destructive. Why don't you offer your
ideas on where these problems stem from. Wait, you already did. You
loosely pinned it on snowboarders.

Let me make some similar accusations. Skiers are all pricks, they
don't do drugs but like to drink irresponsibly, especially apres ski.
All skiers are self righteous. Skiers like to point all problems at
snowboarders. Skiers can't handle powder.

WOW, that was easy!! I never thought that it was so easy just making
generalizations that may or may not hold up to even half of all
skiers! I think I will use this approach more often to argue my
points. (I hope you understand that this whole paragraph was
sarcastic).

JR did bring up some valid points that there are assholes on the hill,
but to pin it on snowboarders is low, below the belt low. Like you
said, trying to ignore the facts won't make these problems go away,
BUT trying to pass the blame on some other group won't either.


Well, stu, until I see differently from all the snowboarders that come to
town, these generalizations are pretty much dead on. You ask for some
constructive advice, well here's my advice Paco. Snowboarders need to
stop using drugs. Period. Back in my day, I didn't need drugs to give
me a lift, I got that by having clean fun. You notice skiiers and other
mountain enthusaists don't feel the need to use drugs like snowboarders
do. And you're right that skiiers can't handle powder. That's because
skiiers aren't into drugs. They don't WANT powder.

JR had valid points because if you look at it scientifically, the
majority of the assholes are snowboarders. Look at the facts.

MH
Denver, CO
Where we always walk a mile high.

Waco Paco January 17th 05 04:42 AM

Zaphod Beeblebrox wrote:

Waco Paco wrote:

Matthew Hennig wrote:



el snippo


HA, listen to yourselves! If my university has taught me anything, it
is to critically analyze people's arguments. Calling people names are
immature, but so is generalizing a group of people with the acts of
some! Yes, most of the snowboarders out there are teenagers, but I
have to disagree with your other generalization of snowboarders from
your limited experience and maybe tinted glasses. Your crude
generalization of snowboarders disgust me.



Ohmigod! Sweet Jeebus - where do I begin????
There is so much to respond to and so little time!


OK - let's just focus on 1.0 below...

1. You tend to assume that all snowboarders revel in cutting across
skiers paths.



He did NOT assume that - please go back and re-read the passage.

"Snowboarders frighten and confuse me. Sometimes I see them riding
their "boards" from my seat in the lodge and they just seem revel in
getting in the way of the normal skiers."


that is what he wrote. The first sentence states his fears. The second
sentence supports why he fears snowboarders. Therefore he is afraid of
snowboarders because some snowboarders like to get in the way of normal
skiers. He is making a judgement on all snowboarders based on a number
of snowboarders he saw.

I have seen many skiers cut across other skiers and
snowboarders and an equal amount of snowboarders doing the same. What
does that mean? It means that type of equipment has no saying in that
behaviour.



No it doesn't - it just means that you need to start taking some more
English classes. I mean, take that very first sentence - what the
sweet **** does it mean?1! "Amount of snowboarders" you say??????
Snowboarders are not salt or sugar - you say "NUMBER of snowboarders!"
And it's "has no say" not "has no saying in that beaviour." And it's
spelt "behaviour" not "behavior."

So, you are agreeing with me its behaviour.
Also amount is equally valid as number. Maybe if you broaden your
horizons a little bit you'll know better.

However, if you look at the age group you'll see that most of the
inconsiderate are teenagers. I have been the victim of young skiers
cutting across a merger zone because they were reckless.



As a teenager I deeply resent your insinuations.


As a snowboarder I deeply resent some insinuations made by skiers.


Therefore it
can be established that the equipment has little saying on behaviour
but rather it is directly proportionate to demographic.


As a famous rightwinger once said "There you go again!"
"Directly proportionate to edmolgraphic?"
Please translate....


its demographic. let me rephrase as it does make little sense. What I
tried to say is the equipment has nothing to do with it, but from a
statistical point of view, it more closely resembles the actions of
young adults more so than older people.

By the way, maybe you need some english classes.

Waco Paco January 17th 05 04:51 AM

Matthew Hennig wrote:

Waco Paco wrote in
:


Matthew Hennig wrote:

snip


Look at the facts here. Snowboarders are more likely to be involved
with drugs than the average person. Snowboarders are also more
likely to be involved in vandalism. If you don't recognize the
problem, then take your blinders off. And then the fact that I can't
enjoy the slopes in peace because the snow boarders start blaring
their "X-treme" music, its just wrong. I think JR raised some valid
points here and trying to ignore them like you are trying to do won't
make them go away.

MH
Denver, CO
Where we always walk a mile high.


Your self righteousness makes me wanna puke. Trying to pass off as
superior isn't going to solve any problem. Maybe you should try being
constructive as oppose to being destructive. Why don't you offer your
ideas on where these problems stem from. Wait, you already did. You
loosely pinned it on snowboarders.

Let me make some similar accusations. Skiers are all pricks, they
don't do drugs but like to drink irresponsibly, especially apres ski.
All skiers are self righteous. Skiers like to point all problems at
snowboarders. Skiers can't handle powder.

WOW, that was easy!! I never thought that it was so easy just making
generalizations that may or may not hold up to even half of all
skiers! I think I will use this approach more often to argue my
points. (I hope you understand that this whole paragraph was
sarcastic).

JR did bring up some valid points that there are assholes on the hill,
but to pin it on snowboarders is low, below the belt low. Like you
said, trying to ignore the facts won't make these problems go away,
BUT trying to pass the blame on some other group won't either.



Well, stu, until I see differently from all the snowboarders that come to
town, these generalizations are pretty much dead on. You ask for some
constructive advice, well here's my advice Paco. Snowboarders need to
stop using drugs. Period. Back in my day, I didn't need drugs to give
me a lift, I got that by having clean fun. You notice skiiers and other
mountain enthusaists don't feel the need to use drugs like snowboarders
do. And you're right that skiiers can't handle powder. That's because
skiiers aren't into drugs. They don't WANT powder.

JR had valid points because if you look at it scientifically, the
majority of the assholes are snowboarders. Look at the facts.

MH
Denver, CO
Where we always walk a mile high.


MH, its always easier to pin it on one thing isn't it. Like Terrorism,
its Saddam Hussein. Like air pollution, its big nasty factories. You
see, there are more to problems than just one cause. Most of the time
there are many causes. By the way, I'd like to know what drug use
contributes to the problems on the hill? Are snowboarders high as a kite
while they snowboard? or are drugs making them violent and inconsiderate?

Plus are you sure that skiers don't want powder? can you speak for all
of them? (tell you the truth, untouched powder is the purest form of
skiing or snowboarding because it is all natural)


Matthew Hennig January 17th 05 06:02 AM

Waco Paco wrote in
:

Matthew Hennig wrote:

Waco Paco wrote in
:


Matthew Hennig wrote:

snip


Look at the facts here. Snowboarders are more likely to be involved
with drugs than the average person. Snowboarders are also more
likely to be involved in vandalism. If you don't recognize the
problem, then take your blinders off. And then the fact that I
can't enjoy the slopes in peace because the snow boarders start
blaring their "X-treme" music, its just wrong. I think JR raised
some valid points here and trying to ignore them like you are trying
to do won't make them go away.

MH
Denver, CO
Where we always walk a mile high.

Your self righteousness makes me wanna puke. Trying to pass off as
superior isn't going to solve any problem. Maybe you should try being
constructive as oppose to being destructive. Why don't you offer your
ideas on where these problems stem from. Wait, you already did. You
loosely pinned it on snowboarders.

Let me make some similar accusations. Skiers are all pricks, they
don't do drugs but like to drink irresponsibly, especially apres ski.
All skiers are self righteous. Skiers like to point all problems at
snowboarders. Skiers can't handle powder.

WOW, that was easy!! I never thought that it was so easy just making
generalizations that may or may not hold up to even half of all
skiers! I think I will use this approach more often to argue my
points. (I hope you understand that this whole paragraph was
sarcastic).

JR did bring up some valid points that there are assholes on the
hill, but to pin it on snowboarders is low, below the belt low. Like
you said, trying to ignore the facts won't make these problems go
away, BUT trying to pass the blame on some other group won't either.



Well, stu, until I see differently from all the snowboarders that
come to town, these generalizations are pretty much dead on. You ask
for some constructive advice, well here's my advice Paco.
Snowboarders need to stop using drugs. Period. Back in my day, I
didn't need drugs to give me a lift, I got that by having clean fun.
You notice skiiers and other mountain enthusaists don't feel the need
to use drugs like snowboarders do. And you're right that skiiers
can't handle powder. That's because skiiers aren't into drugs. They
don't WANT powder.

JR had valid points because if you look at it scientifically, the
majority of the assholes are snowboarders. Look at the facts.

MH
Denver, CO
Where we always walk a mile high.


MH, its always easier to pin it on one thing isn't it. Like Terrorism,
its Saddam Hussein. Like air pollution, its big nasty factories. You
see, there are more to problems than just one cause. Most of the time
there are many causes. By the way, I'd like to know what drug use
contributes to the problems on the hill? Are snowboarders high as a
kite
while they snowboard? or are drugs making them violent and
inconsiderate?

Plus are you sure that skiers don't want powder? can you speak for all
of them? (tell you the truth, untouched powder is the purest form of
skiing or snowboarding because it is all natural)


Drug use is a big problem with these snowboarders. The drugs effect them
different ways. Some of them have problems on the hill, some of them
become violent, especially against the other mountain enthusiasts.

And yes, skiiers don't want any of that cocaine or heroin powder. Are
you admitting on here that you like the powder?

MH
Denver, CO
Where we always walk a mile high.

Champ January 17th 05 10:19 AM

On Sun, 16 Jan 2005 13:08:40 -0500, John Rogers
wrote:

Snowboarders frighten and confuse me. Sometimes I see them riding
their "boards" from my seat in the lodge and they just seem revel in
getting in the way of the normal skiers. I wish they could get
haircuts and join society, because someday, they are going to run the
country.

The really scary ones are the ones with all of their "bling" and their
ghetto-blasters who play their "groovy" music at an increased volume.
I wouldn't turn up my Waylon Jennings CD's up and disturb other people
on the slopes. Why do you people feel like you have the right to do
so?


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| FEED THE TROLLS | :=.' - - '.=:
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| Thank you, | ( (_) )
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Mike T January 17th 05 03:43 PM

Snowboarders frighten and confuse me.

Folks, either this guy is 100% troll or he lacks fortitude and intellect as
illustrated by the opening sentence of his first post. Arguing with him is
pointless either way. In the former case you're feeding a troll and in the
latter case, you're feeding his paranoia. Let this thread die.


Mike T



broady January 17th 05 05:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by John Rogers
Snowboarders frighten and confuse me. Sometimes I see them riding
their "boards" from my seat in the lodge and they just seem revel in
getting in the way of the normal skiers. I wish they could get
haircuts and join society, because someday, they are going to run the
country.

The really scary ones are the ones with all of their "bling" and their
ghetto-blasters who play their "groovy" music at an increased volume.
I wouldn't turn up my Waylon Jennings CD's up and disturb other people
on the slopes. Why do you people feel like you have the right to do
so?

Please, think about what I've said.

JR
Norman, OK

i'v only just started boarding and i am 41 and it fells great to be in company of such great people out there just doing something different .Even the young are so helpfull to me showing me how to do it . i wear an omega whatch but that does not make me any different then anyone else.drugs hear mate theve been around for years since i was 19 so get a life

Waco Paco January 17th 05 05:28 PM

Matthew Hennig wrote:

Waco Paco wrote in
:


Matthew Hennig wrote:


Waco Paco wrote in
:



Matthew Hennig wrote:

snip

Look at the facts here. Snowboarders are more likely to be involved
with drugs than the average person. Snowboarders are also more
likely to be involved in vandalism. If you don't recognize the
problem, then take your blinders off. And then the fact that I
can't enjoy the slopes in peace because the snow boarders start
blaring their "X-treme" music, its just wrong. I think JR raised
some valid points here and trying to ignore them like you are trying
to do won't make them go away.

MH
Denver, CO
Where we always walk a mile high.

Your self righteousness makes me wanna puke. Trying to pass off as
superior isn't going to solve any problem. Maybe you should try being
constructive as oppose to being destructive. Why don't you offer your
ideas on where these problems stem from. Wait, you already did. You
loosely pinned it on snowboarders.

Let me make some similar accusations. Skiers are all pricks, they
don't do drugs but like to drink irresponsibly, especially apres ski.
All skiers are self righteous. Skiers like to point all problems at
snowboarders. Skiers can't handle powder.

WOW, that was easy!! I never thought that it was so easy just making
generalizations that may or may not hold up to even half of all
skiers! I think I will use this approach more often to argue my
points. (I hope you understand that this whole paragraph was
sarcastic).

JR did bring up some valid points that there are assholes on the
hill, but to pin it on snowboarders is low, below the belt low. Like
you said, trying to ignore the facts won't make these problems go
away, BUT trying to pass the blame on some other group won't either.


Well, stu, until I see differently from all the snowboarders that
come to town, these generalizations are pretty much dead on. You ask
for some constructive advice, well here's my advice Paco.
Snowboarders need to stop using drugs. Period. Back in my day, I
didn't need drugs to give me a lift, I got that by having clean fun.
You notice skiiers and other mountain enthusaists don't feel the need
to use drugs like snowboarders do. And you're right that skiiers
can't handle powder. That's because skiiers aren't into drugs. They
don't WANT powder.

JR had valid points because if you look at it scientifically, the
majority of the assholes are snowboarders. Look at the facts.

MH
Denver, CO
Where we always walk a mile high.


MH, its always easier to pin it on one thing isn't it. Like Terrorism,
its Saddam Hussein. Like air pollution, its big nasty factories. You
see, there are more to problems than just one cause. Most of the time
there are many causes. By the way, I'd like to know what drug use
contributes to the problems on the hill? Are snowboarders high as a
kite
while they snowboard? or are drugs making them violent and
inconsiderate?

Plus are you sure that skiers don't want powder? can you speak for all
of them? (tell you the truth, untouched powder is the purest form of
skiing or snowboarding because it is all natural)



Drug use is a big problem with these snowboarders. The drugs effect them
different ways. Some of them have problems on the hill, some of them
become violent, especially against the other mountain enthusiasts.

And yes, skiiers don't want any of that cocaine or heroin powder. Are
you admitting on here that you like the powder?

MH
Denver, CO
Where we always walk a mile high.


MH, in which medical journal did you read drug use contributes to
snowboarder violence?

Also since you're in Denver, you must be high all the time! I bet you
sniff coke better than a hoover. It's so easy to take a few words out of
context and use it as an insult isn't it?

And yes I do love powder.


Waco Paco January 17th 05 05:29 PM

Mike T wrote:

Snowboarders frighten and confuse me.



Folks, either this guy is 100% troll or he lacks fortitude and intellect as
illustrated by the opening sentence of his first post. Arguing with him is
pointless either way. In the former case you're feeding a troll and in the
latter case, you're feeding his paranoia. Let this thread die.


Mike T



Mike, I respect you.

stu

Mike M. Miskulin January 18th 05 04:40 AM

"winnard" wrote in news:dLGGd.19101$4h.5489
@okepread03:

Dude, if this is your sig, you need to get a life.


winnard


that was one of rogers posts from long ago.

Mike M. Miskulin January 18th 05 04:43 AM

John Rogers wrote in
:


So you seem to think it's a bad thing to do our best to save our
country's brave Fighting Soldiers from fraud and/or disease? Why do
you hate America?

JR
Norman, OK


Ha you are rich bro. Sounds like you were doing your best
to save a few ho's along the way.

And dude just cause somebody disagrees with you or thinks
you are a jackass doesn't mean they hate America.

Mike M. Miskulin January 18th 05 04:45 AM

Matthew Hennig wrote in
:


JR had valid points because if you look at it scientifically, the
majority of the assholes are snowboarders. Look at the facts.


Ok, please quote the literature. And dude if you think
skiiers don't do drugs you really are spending too much
time in the lodge.


Mike M. Miskulin January 18th 05 04:52 AM

Waco Paco wrote in news:1105940799.294527


that is what he wrote. The first sentence states his fears. The

second
sentence supports why he fears snowboarders. Therefore he is afraid

of
snowboarders because some snowboarders like to get in the way of

normal
skiers. He is making a judgement on all snowboarders based on a

number
of snowboarders he saw.


Seems then that the skiier is further up the hill if the boarder
is 'cutting' in front of the skiier. Hence the skiier is at
fault as the *DOWNHILL* skiier/rider already in motion
has the right of way.





Mike M. Miskulin January 18th 05 04:54 AM

Champ wrote in
:

+-------------------+ .:\:\:/:/:.
| PLEASE DO NOT | :.:\:\:/:/:.:
| FEED THE TROLLS | :=.' - - '.=:


Yeah I know,..but I couldn't resist, especially after
I found his post about strip joints after trying to come
off as mr. high and mighty. Besides its been years since
I was in one :)


John Rogers January 19th 05 01:44 AM

Yeah, "Mike M. Miskulin" , well... that's just
like... your opinion man.

John Rogers wrote in
:


So you seem to think it's a bad thing to do our best to save our
country's brave Fighting Soldiers from fraud and/or disease? Why do
you hate America?

JR
Norman, OK


Ha you are rich bro. Sounds like you were doing your best
to save a few ho's along the way.


Sluts are people too, ASS.

And dude just cause somebody disagrees with you or thinks
you are a jackass doesn't mean they hate America.


It does if they are a commie.


John Rogers
AU Class of 1985
The Al Del Greco of Atlanta

"Subordination is the natural order: there is subordination in Heaven -
Thrones and Dominions take precendence over Powers and Principalities,
Archangels and ordinary foremast angels; and so it is in the Navy. You
have come to the wrong shop for anarchy, brother."

(Captain Jack Aubrey, R.N. "The Ionian Mission)

John Smith February 23rd 05 10:07 PM

"John Rogers" wrote in message
...
Snowboarders frighten and confuse me. Sometimes I see them riding
their "boards" from my seat in the lodge and they just seem revel in
getting in the way of the normal skiers. I wish they could get
haircuts and join society, because someday, they are going to run the
country.


Thanks. I needed a laugh. Sounds just like the old man skits on SNL!

over the top stuff about an old dead man snipped



John Smith February 23rd 05 10:08 PM


"John Rogers" wrote in message
...

You people could use some Bibel.


Is that a brand of suspenders?



John Smith February 23rd 05 10:10 PM

Chill, guys! It was just a troll.

"Mike M. Miskulin" wrote in message
.44...
Waco Paco wrote in news:1105940799.294527


that is what he wrote. The first sentence states his fears. The

second
sentence supports why he fears snowboarders. Therefore he is afraid

of
snowboarders because some snowboarders like to get in the way of

normal
skiers. He is making a judgement on all snowboarders based on a

number
of snowboarders he saw.


Seems then that the skiier is further up the hill if the boarder
is 'cutting' in front of the skiier. Hence the skiier is at
fault as the *DOWNHILL* skiier/rider already in motion
has the right of way.







[email protected] July 16th 18 03:31 AM

Snowboarders...losers???
 
Hahaha you probably realllyyy suck at skiing and take an hour to do a double black. Bitch double blacks are a cake walk. Bout you duck under some ropes go out of bounds and then talk to me. Ya you suck at skiing and get your ****ty family off the slopes cause they're the ones really in the way. Blow it out your ass pussy trash nigrius


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