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RightEagle December 11th 07 02:49 AM

Toxic Ski and snowboard wax polluting groundwater???
 
Has anyone ever thought about this, It does not seem like there would
be a lot, but I suppose any amount might matter? Read this press
release, it kind of makes you think.

http://www.enviromountain.com/Press_Release.htm



Rob White December 11th 07 08:03 AM

Toxic Ski and snowboard wax polluting groundwater???
 
Just another envio scare from an American company flogging its own product.
He bangs on about the "foreign" waxes as if the USA waxes are any different
and then stresses how his product is from American farmers and helps their
trade balance. Even if he is right about the 1255 tons of wax left on
American mountains, that's a drop in the ocean compared to the jet and car
fuel skiers use to get there, let alone the fuel running the resorts etc.

Rob


"RightEagle" wrote in message
...
Has anyone ever thought about this, It does not seem like there would
be a lot, but I suppose any amount might matter? Read this press
release, it kind of makes you think.

http://www.enviromountain.com/Press_Release.htm





Switters December 12th 07 11:54 AM

Toxic Ski and snowboard wax polluting groundwater???
 
On Tue, 11 Dec 2007 03:49:32 GMT, RightEagle
allegedly wrote:

Read this press release, it kind of makes you think.


I hate it when idiots post to the group like they've stumbled across
something, and all the time, they're just spamming their stupid product.

Mister Niceguy December 12th 07 02:41 PM

Toxic Ski and snowboard wax polluting groundwater???
 
"Rob White" wrote in
:

Just another envio scare from an American company flogging its own
product. He bangs on about the "foreign" waxes as if the USA waxes are
any different and then stresses how his product is from American
farmers and helps their trade balance. Even if he is right about the
1255 tons of wax left on American mountains, that's a drop in the
ocean compared to the jet and car fuel skiers use to get there, let
alone the fuel running the resorts etc.

Rob


"RightEagle" wrote in message
..
.
Has anyone ever thought about this, It does not seem like there would
be a lot, but I suppose any amount might matter? Read this press
release, it kind of makes you think.

http://www.enviromountain.com/Press_Release.htm





Yes, I would have to agree with you Rob. Ski wax is one of the last
pollutants we need to worry about.

Alun Evans December 13th 07 08:02 AM

Toxic Ski and snowboard wax polluting groundwater???
 

Yes, I would have to agree with you Rob. Ski wax is one of the last
pollutants we need to worry about.



So as it happens I was riding down in the Heavenly (Lake Tahoe)
gondola with a veteran ski instructor on Sunday.

She was talking about the changes since Vail resorts took over, one of
the biggest being their environmental conservation policies.

Apparently they built large water cleaning facilities that collect the
snow melt run-off from the mountain and they purify it before it flows
to the Lake. The reason being the debris / rubbish, random fluids from
snow-cats / chair lifts, and yes, wax from skis / boards.

We were surprised by the wax comment and did ask "really?!?", and she
said it was the case.


Still, I tend to agree with the OP on the product peddling :)



A.

--
Alun Evans

Mister Niceguy December 13th 07 08:43 AM

Toxic Ski and snowboard wax polluting groundwater???
 
Alun Evans wrote in news:ygvnve73vug8.fsf@dc3-
rtg-lnx-4.cisco.com:


Yes, I would have to agree with you Rob. Ski wax is one of the last
pollutants we need to worry about.



So as it happens I was riding down in the Heavenly (Lake Tahoe)
gondola with a veteran ski instructor on Sunday.

She was talking about the changes since Vail resorts took over, one of
the biggest being their environmental conservation policies.

Apparently they built large water cleaning facilities that collect the
snow melt run-off from the mountain and they purify it before it flows
to the Lake. The reason being the debris / rubbish, random fluids from
snow-cats / chair lifts, and yes, wax from skis / boards.

We were surprised by the wax comment and did ask "really?!?", and she
said it was the case.



I would have thought that fuel/oil/lubricant leakage would be much higher
as would discarded rubbish, foodstuffs etc.

I find the figure of 1255 tons hard to believe. What's that per skier
then?

Still, I tend to agree with the OP on the product peddling :)


Yes, well that's another matter.

Ace December 13th 07 10:43 AM

Toxic Ski and snowboard wax polluting groundwater???
 
On Thu, 13 Dec 2007 01:02:15 -0800, Alun Evans
wrote:


Yes, I would have to agree with you Rob. Ski wax is one of the last
pollutants we need to worry about.



So as it happens I was riding down in the Heavenly (Lake Tahoe)
gondola with a veteran ski instructor on Sunday.

She was talking about the changes since Vail resorts took over, one of
the biggest being their environmental conservation policies.

Apparently they built large water cleaning facilities that collect the
snow melt run-off from the mountain and they purify it before it flows
to the Lake. The reason being the debris / rubbish, random fluids from
snow-cats / chair lifts, and yes, wax from skis / boards.


In many places the largest single pollutant in ski-area runoff is the
chemicals added to the water for use in snow cannons. Any green policy
should start looking at this, then air pollution from old
diesel-operated lifts, way ahead of the effects of ski wax. I'd have
thought.

--
Ace (brucedotrogers a.t rochedotcom)
Ski Club of Great Britain - http://www.skiclub.co.uk
All opinions expressed are personal and in no way represent those of the Ski Club.

RightEagle December 14th 07 02:45 AM

Toxic Ski and snowboard wax polluting groundwater???
 
On Dec 11, 2:03 am, "Rob White" wrote:
Just another envio scare from an American company flogging its own product.
He bangs on about the "foreign" waxes as if the USA waxes are any different
and then stresses how his product is from American farmers and helps their
trade balance. Even if he is right about the 1255 tons ofwaxleft on
American mountains, that's a drop in the ocean compared to the jet and car
fuel skiers use to get there, let alone the fuel running the resorts etc.

Rob


So does that does that mean that little pollution is ok.

If you could buy wax made with products grown by European Farmers woud
that be better than Importing more oil from the Middle East, or
drilling more oil in the North Sea.

Also, even if the 2.81 million pounds is small compared to the jet and
car fuel, at least its a step in the right direction.

One more thing, I see your point about banging on foreign waxes. He
was trying to make the point about imported crude oil and petroleum. I
will give him a verbal lashing unlike anything a self serving American
has ever heard for offending you.

the eagle



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