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FredB July 28th 03 09:48 AM

Skiing in Austria
 
Schladming is excellent for all round skiers with plenty of blues on 4 different
mountains
St Anton would be too hard & busy
St Johann is OK but limited No of runs for all standards of skiing
Obertauern is again v good for beginners but inters & experts may get bored. Its
more assured of good snow earlier in winter aswell. But the ski runs are quite
short.

Austria is an excellent place to go & on the whole, queues are shorter than many
other places in the alps.

Andy


Rodger Williams wrote:

We are fairly novice skiers from Africa (yip believe it or not), and want to
go to Austria in January. Any suggestions or tips on where to go would be
appreciated.

Many thanks

Rodger



FredB July 29th 03 09:51 PM

Skiing in Austria
 
Roger

I went to Andorra for my v first skiing hols in y2k. To compare Andorra to
Austria - well there's no comparison.
I'm an Austrian fan, but trying to be objective, here's my pros & cons of
Austria against Andorra
PROs
so much better scenary, incl mountains, buildings (so much wood)
Skiing above & below tree lines
Better food
no green runs (could be a conn)
quieter - fewer queues for lifts
They have there own history & atmosphere - its just there, cant explain, but
andorra just seems to have purpose build resorts that, quite frankly look like
it.

CONNs
more expensive, but not as much as most people think. Booze is cheaper in And,
Aus prices are similar to UK for beer, cheaper for wine.I r emember brandy
being everso cheap in And.

If you do go, pick carefully the reosrt (as anywhere). I drove out this year (
and last) and spent a week eack in Schladming & Obertauern.
Last year drove to St Anton & Schladming

Previously went to St Michael (with Equity) - village was v small with little
going on, but Equity were absolutely excellent. Their free ski guide was the
bees knees.
Also been to St Johann - great town but skiing runs were not that extensive.

Thinking of going to Bad Gastein next.
NB Austria has really gone mad on their websites in the last few years -
theres load of good info out there. Try www.tiscover.com for one.

Need any more info, let me know ( i may have some town maps to email you)

Hope that helps,
Andy


Rodger Williams wrote:

Hi Andy,

Thanks for this. Have you been to Andorra, and if so how would you compare
them.? Andorra was fantastic for me, and I am worried I will be
dissapointed.

Regards

Rodger

"FredB" wrote in message
...
Schladming is excellent for all round skiers with plenty of blues on 4

different
mountains
St Anton would be too hard & busy
St Johann is OK but limited No of runs for all standards of skiing
Obertauern is again v good for beginners but inters & experts may get

bored. Its
more assured of good snow earlier in winter aswell. But the ski runs are

quite
short.

Austria is an excellent place to go & on the whole, queues are shorter

than many
other places in the alps.

Andy


Rodger Williams wrote:

We are fairly novice skiers from Africa (yip believe it or not), and

want to
go to Austria in January. Any suggestions or tips on where to go would

be
appreciated.

Many thanks

Rodger




FredB July 29th 03 10:00 PM

Skiing in Austria
 
Also sent by email ( keep correspondance via email)

FredB wrote:

Roger

I went to Andorra for my v first skiing hols in y2k. To compare Andorra to
Austria - well there's no comparison.
I'm an Austrian fan, but trying to be objective, here's my pros & cons of
Austria against Andorra
PROs
so much better scenary, incl mountains, buildings (so much wood)
Skiing above & below tree lines
Better food
no green runs (could be a conn)
quieter - fewer queues for lifts
They have there own history & atmosphere - its just there, cant explain, but
andorra just seems to have purpose build resorts that, quite frankly look like
it.

CONNs
more expensive, but not as much as most people think. Booze is cheaper in And,
Aus prices are similar to UK for beer, cheaper for wine.I r emember brandy
being everso cheap in And.

If you do go, pick carefully the reosrt (as anywhere). I drove out this year (
and last) and spent a week eack in Schladming & Obertauern.
Last year drove to St Anton & Schladming

Previously went to St Michael (with Equity) - village was v small with little
going on, but Equity were absolutely excellent. Their free ski guide was the
bees knees.
Also been to St Johann - great town but skiing runs were not that extensive.

Thinking of going to Bad Gastein next.
NB Austria has really gone mad on their websites in the last few years -
theres load of good info out there. Try www.tiscover.com for one.

Need any more info, let me know ( i may have some town maps to email you)

Hope that helps,
Andy

Rodger Williams wrote:

Hi Andy,

Thanks for this. Have you been to Andorra, and if so how would you compare
them.? Andorra was fantastic for me, and I am worried I will be
dissapointed.

Regards

Rodger

"FredB" wrote in message
...
Schladming is excellent for all round skiers with plenty of blues on 4

different
mountains
St Anton would be too hard & busy
St Johann is OK but limited No of runs for all standards of skiing
Obertauern is again v good for beginners but inters & experts may get

bored. Its
more assured of good snow earlier in winter aswell. But the ski runs are

quite
short.

Austria is an excellent place to go & on the whole, queues are shorter

than many
other places in the alps.

Andy


Rodger Williams wrote:

We are fairly novice skiers from Africa (yip believe it or not), and

want to
go to Austria in January. Any suggestions or tips on where to go would

be
appreciated.

Many thanks

Rodger



InMyTree July 30th 03 06:50 AM

Skiing in Austria
 
I haven't been to andorra, but I would say it would be almost impossible to
go to Austria and find it worse than Andorra!

"Rodger Williams" wrote in message
...
Hi Andy,

Thanks for this. Have you been to Andorra, and if so how would you compare
them.? Andorra was fantastic for me, and I am worried I will be
dissapointed.

Regards

Rodger


"FredB" wrote in message
...
Schladming is excellent for all round skiers with plenty of blues on 4

different
mountains
St Anton would be too hard & busy
St Johann is OK but limited No of runs for all standards of skiing
Obertauern is again v good for beginners but inters & experts may get

bored. Its
more assured of good snow earlier in winter aswell. But the ski runs are

quite
short.

Austria is an excellent place to go & on the whole, queues are shorter

than many
other places in the alps.

Andy


Rodger Williams wrote:

We are fairly novice skiers from Africa (yip believe it or not), and

want to
go to Austria in January. Any suggestions or tips on where to go would

be
appreciated.

Many thanks

Rodger







MoonMan July 30th 03 08:55 AM

Skiing in Austria
 
In , InMyTree typed:
I haven't been to andorra, but I would say it would be almost
impossible to go to Austria and find it worse than Andorra!


Sol ?


--
Chris *:-)

Downhill Good, Uphill BAD!

www.suffolkvikings.org.uk



MoonMan July 30th 03 08:59 AM

Skiing in Austria
 
In , FredB typed:
Roger

I went to Andorra for my v first skiing hols in y2k. To compare
Andorra to Austria - well there's no comparison.
I'm an Austrian fan, but trying to be objective, here's my pros &
cons of Austria against Andorra
PROs
so much better scenary, incl mountains, buildings (so much wood)
Skiing above & below tree lines


What about Soldeu this has both above and below treeline skiing

Better food


if you like Meat and three meat for a main course and pure sugar for a
desert

seriously though, if you are a vegetarian (which I am not) do not go to
Austria

--
Chris *:-)

Downhill Good, Uphill BAD!

www.suffolkvikings.org.uk



Jeremy Westhead July 30th 03 07:38 PM

Skiing in Austria
 
The hotel Haldenhof in Lech has large numbers of african visitors every
year - seems very popular with them (I stay every year).
"Rodger Williams" wrote in message
...
We are fairly novice skiers from Africa (yip believe it or not), and want

to
go to Austria in January. Any suggestions or tips on where to go would be
appreciated.

Many thanks

Rodger





FredB July 30th 03 07:56 PM

Skiing in Austria
 
Rod

Also try websites
http://www.crystalski.co.uk/ - dont always get things right & novice staff &
dont answer phones at pre departure svces
http://www.inghams.co.uk/ - better quality co than Crystal & worth paying a bit
of extra dosh, quality staff
http://www.equity.co.uk/ - prices initially look high - but they incl everything
- skis, boots, lift pass supps, etc. V. experienced
http://www.rocketski.com/J_homepage.asp - equity without the inclusions

Regards
Andy




Rodger Williams wrote:

Hi Andy,

You are a great help, thanks mate. I will definitely go and have a look at
the resorts and wesbite you have sent me.

Best regards

Rodger

"FredB" wrote in message
...
Also sent by email ( keep correspondance via email)

FredB wrote:

Roger

I went to Andorra for my v first skiing hols in y2k. To compare Andorra

to
Austria - well there's no comparison.
I'm an Austrian fan, but trying to be objective, here's my pros & cons

of
Austria against Andorra
PROs
so much better scenary, incl mountains, buildings (so much wood)
Skiing above & below tree lines
Better food
no green runs (could be a conn)
quieter - fewer queues for lifts
They have there own history & atmosphere - its just there, cant explain,

but
andorra just seems to have purpose build resorts that, quite frankly

look like
it.

CONNs
more expensive, but not as much as most people think. Booze is cheaper

in And,
Aus prices are similar to UK for beer, cheaper for wine.I r emember

brandy
being everso cheap in And.

If you do go, pick carefully the reosrt (as anywhere). I drove out this

year (
and last) and spent a week eack in Schladming & Obertauern.
Last year drove to St Anton & Schladming

Previously went to St Michael (with Equity) - village was v small with

little
going on, but Equity were absolutely excellent. Their free ski guide was

the
bees knees.
Also been to St Johann - great town but skiing runs were not that

extensive.

Thinking of going to Bad Gastein next.
NB Austria has really gone mad on their websites in the last few years -
theres load of good info out there. Try www.tiscover.com for one.

Need any more info, let me know ( i may have some town maps to email

you)

Hope that helps,
Andy

Rodger Williams wrote:

Hi Andy,

Thanks for this. Have you been to Andorra, and if so how would you

compare
them.? Andorra was fantastic for me, and I am worried I will be
dissapointed.

Regards

Rodger

"FredB" wrote in message
...
Schladming is excellent for all round skiers with plenty of blues on

4
different
mountains
St Anton would be too hard & busy
St Johann is OK but limited No of runs for all standards of skiing
Obertauern is again v good for beginners but inters & experts may

get
bored. Its
more assured of good snow earlier in winter aswell. But the ski runs

are
quite
short.

Austria is an excellent place to go & on the whole, queues are

shorter
than many
other places in the alps.

Andy


Rodger Williams wrote:

We are fairly novice skiers from Africa (yip believe it or not),

and
want to
go to Austria in January. Any suggestions or tips on where to go

would
be
appreciated.

Many thanks

Rodger




FredB July 30th 03 07:59 PM

Skiing in Austria
 
I do agree, but pretty it aint. Food - grease with everything - if you like
that kind og thing then great. I prefer food that taste of food & not
grease.
As for being a vege - yep Aus isnt so good, but they are improving
(slighltly) - I was a vege for 8 yrs & went to AUS several times (mainly in
the summer)

Andy


MoonMan wrote:

In , FredB typed:
Roger

I went to Andorra for my v first skiing hols in y2k. To compare
Andorra to Austria - well there's no comparison.
I'm an Austrian fan, but trying to be objective, here's my pros &
cons of Austria against Andorra
PROs
so much better scenary, incl mountains, buildings (so much wood)
Skiing above & below tree lines


What about Soldeu this has both above and below treeline skiing

Better food


if you like Meat and three meat for a main course and pure sugar for a
desert

seriously though, if you are a vegetarian (which I am not) do not go to
Austria

--
Chris *:-)

Downhill Good, Uphill BAD!

www.suffolkvikings.org.uk



Ian Spare July 31st 03 08:06 AM

Skiing in Austria
 
On Wed, 30 Jul 2003 20:59:51 +0100, FredB
wrote:

I do agree, but pretty it aint. Food - grease with everything - if you like
that kind og thing then great. I prefer food that taste of food & not
grease.


We're still talking about Austria ? You must be staying in some
"interesting hotels". Is this package tour stuff ?

As for being a vege - yep Aus isnt so good, but they are improving
(slighltly) - I was a vege for 8 yrs & went to AUS several times (mainly in
the summer)

Andy


MoonMan wrote:

In , FredB typed:
Roger

I went to Andorra for my v first skiing hols in y2k. To compare
Andorra to Austria - well there's no comparison.
I'm an Austrian fan, but trying to be objective, here's my pros &
cons of Austria against Andorra
PROs
so much better scenary, incl mountains, buildings (so much wood)
Skiing above & below tree lines


What about Soldeu this has both above and below treeline skiing

Better food


if you like Meat and three meat for a main course and pure sugar for a
desert

seriously though, if you are a vegetarian (which I am not) do not go to
Austria

--
Chris *:-)

Downhill Good, Uphill BAD!

www.suffolkvikings.org.uk




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