Air Travel w Skis as baggage (was best ski bag?)
Previous rec.skiing.backcountry topic on best ski bag turned to a
discussion on air travel ski baggage hassles. Here is what Delta's offical policy is with regard to ski equipment: One item of ski or snowboard equipment is accepted as part of your free checked baggage allowance. One item of ski or snowboard equipment is defined as: One ski/pole bag or one snowboard bag, and one boot bag. These combined items must meet the standard free baggage allowances for weight and number of pieces or normal excess baggage charges will apply. http://www.delta.com/traveling_check...oods/index.jsp Other airlines have similar rules. For us Nordic skiers, a big problem is the term "one". Depending on my ski holiday, I may "need" two or three pairs of skis, boots and poles. E.g. mountain touring skis, track or light touring classic skis and skating skis. In multi-ski trips, it becomes "don't ask, don't tell". The number of ski issue is even more of a problem for those traveling to multiple event races where one may want to be bringing a couple of pairs of classic skis and a couple of pairs of skating skis. I suspect that the best strategy in traveling with multiple skis is to keep the weight of the bag as low as you can so that the agent doesn't feel obligated to look inside, and not pack it with too many clothes so that it looks like a stuffed sausage. The other downside of multiple skis is that would become more problematic if you need to claim damage. Of course, the other downside is that on international travel the breakage compensation is based on weight. What is the airline liabilty on braking your 2 kg Atomic RS11 + bindings skating skis ? Edgar |
Edgar wrote: Previous rec.skiing.backcountry topic on best ski bag turned to a discussion on air travel ski baggage hassles. Here is what Delta's offical policy is with regard to ski equipment: One item of ski or snowboard equipment is accepted as part of your free checked baggage allowance. One item of ski or snowboard equipment is defined as: One ski/pole bag or one snowboard bag, and one boot bag. These combined items must meet the standard free baggage allowances for weight and number of pieces or normal excess baggage charges will apply. i think it says one item which is one bag of skies and one bag of boots .... not one pair of skies interesting. would seem that together they count as one checked item. need to enquire there and make sure that doesn't use up your two item luggage limit, that is, if you are traveling peon class. are you traveling to sweden? on delta? i guess if you have delta tickets, you come through paris on air france? http://www.delta.com/traveling_check...oods/index.jsp Other airlines have similar rules. For us Nordic skiers, a big problem is the term "one". Depending on my ski holiday, I may "need" two or three pairs of skis, boots and poles. E.g. mountain touring skis, track or light touring classic skis and skating skis. In multi-ski trips, it becomes "don't ask, don't tell". The number of ski issue is even more of a problem for those traveling to multiple event races where one may want to be bringing a couple of pairs of classic skis and a couple of pairs of skating skis. I suspect that the best strategy in traveling with multiple skis is to keep the weight of the bag as low as you can so that the agent doesn't feel obligated to look inside, and not pack it with too many clothes so that it looks like a stuffed sausage. there is a weight limit and you can only have one other piece of checked baggage The other downside of multiple skis is that would become more problematic if you need to claim damage. Of course, the other downside is that on international travel the breakage compensation is based on weight. What is the airline liabilty on braking your 2 kg Atomic RS11 + bindings skating skis ? depends on how much they weigh ... same liability as for the broken skies from the thrift shop Edgar |
klh wrote:
i think it says one item which is one bag of skies and one bag of boots ... not one pair of skies interesting. would seem that together they count as one checked item. need to enquire there and make sure that doesn't use up your two item luggage limit, that is, if you are traveling peon class. The various airlines have "different" yet similar rules. Alaska/Horizon clearly define one as ONE PAIR. That said, I have flown Horizon to Canada and Montana with more than one pair of XC skis, poles etc but my ski bag doesn't weight more than the typical back of Alpine skis. Keep the weight down and be kind to the luggage handler's back and they are not likely to open the ski bag. Alaska/Horizon's Domestic Contract of Carriage: http://www.alaskaair.com/www2/compan...c_section5.asp Skiing Equipment: Items of skiing equipment will be accepted as checked baggage, will be included in determining the free baggage allowance, and when in excess, each item will be subject to the excess baggage charge for a single piece, whether or not presented as a single piece. Skiing equipment must be packaged in a proper soft or hard ski/snowboard bag. Limit of ONE PAIR of skis/snowboard, ONE PAIR of poles, bindings and boots. Additional items shall count as excess baggage.... [Emphasis (All Caps) added] Alaska/Horizon's International Contract of Carriage re Skis is similar to the Domestic http://www.alaskaair.com/www2/compan..._section1K.asp Other airlines have similar rules that exempt skis from the combined length rule. Edgar |
Gene,
there's nothing wrong with cross posting within reason (2 groups is certainly ok) and only to groups with interest in the subject (both might travel with skis in this case). I don't read backcountry... Are you worried that the folks there aren't as friendly as us nords? ;-) Now, multi-posting *is* evil. Multiposting is posting to more than one group in such a way that the various groups do not see each other and don't benefit from the comments of people in the other groups. It's wastes a lot of people's time. BTW: Top-posting and failure to quote are considered rude in some groups - here in rsn, not so much. But, I digress. Wishing everyone a happy new year, Bob "Gene Goldenfeld" wrote in message et... Hmmm.. cross posting. One bag, not one pair of skis, otherwise how could racers and teams afford to travel. This is where a big bag that doubles for skiing and travel comes in handy. Load the ski bag with a lot of clothes for distribution and protection. Gene "Edgar" wrote: Previous rec.skiing.backcountry topic on best ski bag turned to a discussion on air travel ski baggage hassles. Here is what Delta's offical policy is with regard to ski equipment: One item of ski or snowboard equipment is accepted as part of your free checked baggage allowance. One item of ski or snowboard equipment is defined as: One ski/pole bag or one snowboard bag, and one boot bag. These combined items must meet the standard free baggage allowances for weight and number of pieces or normal excess baggage charges will apply. http://www.delta.com/traveling_check...oods/index.jsp Other airlines have similar rules. For us Nordic skiers, a big problem is the term "one". Depending on my ski holiday, I may "need" two or three pairs of skis, boots and poles. E.g. mountain touring skis, track or light touring classic skis and skating skis. In multi-ski trips, it becomes "don't ask, don't tell". The number of ski issue is even more of a problem for those traveling to multiple event races where one may want to be bringing a couple of pairs of classic skis and a couple of pairs of skating skis. I suspect that the best strategy in traveling with multiple skis is to keep the weight of the bag as low as you can so that the agent doesn't feel obligated to look inside, and not pack it with too many clothes so that it looks like a stuffed sausage. The other downside of multiple skis is that would become more problematic if you need to claim damage. Of course, the other downside is that on international travel the breakage compensation is based on weight. What is the airline liabilty on braking your 2 kg Atomic RS11 + bindings skating skis ? Edgar |
Hi,
Sorry for not being aware of cross positng rules. Now that ski travel season is begining again, I thought that sharing experiences with the real world (vs. written airline rules) is a worthwhile dialog. I'll be heading to Canada with both mountain skis (i.e. skiing.backcountry) for Assiniboine and Skoki and track skis for Canmore Nordic, Mt. Shark etc (i.e. skiing.nordic). That would put me in technical violation of the Alaska/Horizon rules. So far, Horizon has not questioned my multiple pair of XC skis. I've also wondered if TSA would question those funny lead cans filled with a strange chemical that fill my wax box. Edgar |
Edgar wrote:
Previous rec.skiing.backcountry topic on best ski bag turned to a discussion on air travel ski baggage hassles. is the term "one". Depending on my ski holiday, I may "need" two or three pairs of skis, boots and poles. Fit them into the bag. In article XOUsf.9869$Q73.3084@trnddc03, klh wrote: there is a weight limit and you can only have one other piece of checked baggage This is an imcomplete thought, sentence. You can have more bags; you just have to an added luggage charge. In the past, this was not a big deal. With more people packed on fewer planes, the weight becomes a deal. It's not a big deal. People have no idea what you can bring onto planes (like Alaska Air allows 50 lbs of ammo). The other downside of multiple skis is that would become more problematic if you need to claim damage. Of course, the other downside .... depends on how much they weigh ... same liability as for the broken skies from the thrift shop Skis are generally pretty tough, but Friends skied down Orizaba near Mexico city, and one broke her skis on the baggage carosel in LAX. United reimbursed her. He (now ex-) boyfriend said she should have claimed original sale price, but she got the beaters from a thrift shop for less than $25. She was quite honest. -- |
In article . com,
Edgar wrote: Sorry for not being aware of cross posting rules. Don't worry about it. Not rules. Feature, not a bug. I've also wondered if TSA would question those funny lead cans filled with a strange chemical that fill my wax box. Depends what the detectors pick up. Wax: no, not enough nitrogen. It's a rec.aviation.airline (I think that's the news group topic). They can question almost anything. -- |
It's a rec.aviation.airline (I think that's the news group topic).
It's sci.aeronautics.airliners and rec.travel.air. -- |
Exactly. On the face of it cross posting can make sense, as it does
with Edgar's question. In practice, the tenor of discussion is dictated by the group that treats each other the worst. I haven't followed backcountry for a good while, and hopefully their discussions are as decent as .nordic's, but many others, such as bicycle, are often not nice. RSN gets caught in the crossfire every so often. Gene "Bob" wrote: Gene, there's nothing wrong with cross posting within reason (2 groups is certainly ok) and only to groups with interest in the subject (both might travel with skis in this case). I don't read backcountry... Are you worried that the folks there aren't as friendly as us nords? ;-) Now, multi-posting *is* evil. Multiposting is posting to more than one group in such a way that the various groups do not see each other and don't benefit from the comments of people in the other groups. It's wastes a lot of people's time. BTW: Top-posting and failure to quote are considered rude in some groups - here in rsn, not so much. But, I digress. Wishing everyone a happy new year, Bob "Gene Goldenfeld" wrote in message et... Hmmm.. cross posting. One bag, not one pair of skis, otherwise how could racers and teams afford to travel. This is where a big bag that doubles for skiing and travel comes in handy. Load the ski bag with a lot of clothes for distribution and protection. Gene "Edgar" wrote: Previous rec.skiing.backcountry topic on best ski bag turned to a discussion on air travel ski baggage hassles. Here is what Delta's offical policy is with regard to ski equipment: One item of ski or snowboard equipment is accepted as part of your free checked baggage allowance. One item of ski or snowboard equipment is defined as: One ski/pole bag or one snowboard bag, and one boot bag. These combined items must meet the standard free baggage allowances for weight and number of pieces or normal excess baggage charges will apply. http://www.delta.com/traveling_check...oods/index.jsp Other airlines have similar rules. For us Nordic skiers, a big problem is the term "one". Depending on my ski holiday, I may "need" two or three pairs of skis, boots and poles. E.g. mountain touring skis, track or light touring classic skis and skating skis. In multi-ski trips, it becomes "don't ask, don't tell". The number of ski issue is even more of a problem for those traveling to multiple event races where one may want to be bringing a couple of pairs of classic skis and a couple of pairs of skating skis. I suspect that the best strategy in traveling with multiple skis is to keep the weight of the bag as low as you can so that the agent doesn't feel obligated to look inside, and not pack it with too many clothes so that it looks like a stuffed sausage. The other downside of multiple skis is that would become more problematic if you need to claim damage. Of course, the other downside is that on international travel the breakage compensation is based on weight. What is the airline liabilty on braking your 2 kg Atomic RS11 + bindings skating skis ? Edgar |
so.......
been following this post and NOBODY ever seems to mention the SOLID ski tubes for flying with skis. I'm going to Sweden for Vasaloppet and debating whethere or not to purchase a SOLID ski tube or pack my skis up in a regular ski bag with padding .... why not just get the solid ski tube and be safe??? are we all too cheap to do so??? JK |
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