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[email protected] April 18th 08 09:46 PM

Pass opening dates/Col d'Iseran
 
Off topic, but it's quiet... I'd like to do this kind of motorbike,
sunny day,
dry road with walls of snow either side thing. I'd always imagined,
that
after the lifts close down in val d'Isere they run a snow plough over
the
top, though as it sometimes snows right through to May/June I guess
it's not really like that. Any ideas on fixed dates for opening the
Col
d'Iseran, or ideas where freshly opened high passes might be the first
couple of weeks in may (within 3 hours of Geneva).

Cheers.
Iain.

LittleRob April 19th 08 12:46 PM

Pass opening dates/Col d'Iseran
 
wrote:
Off topic, but it's quiet... I'd like to do this kind of motorbike,
sunny day,
dry road with walls of snow either side thing. I'd always imagined,
that
after the lifts close down in val d'Isere they run a snow plough over
the
top, though as it sometimes snows right through to May/June I guess
it's not really like that. Any ideas on fixed dates for opening the
Col
d'Iseran, or ideas where freshly opened high passes might be the first
couple of weeks in may (within 3 hours of Geneva).

Cheers.
Iain.


Iain

I've not ridden this route (though I'm tempted this year) but I drove it
in an open-top car a few years ago. I can recommend it.

A very good resource is
www.alpineroads.com

Rob

Matt T April 19th 08 05:47 PM

Pass opening dates/Col d'Iseran
 
On 19 Apr, 13:46, LittleRob wrote:
wrote:
Off topic, but it's quiet... *I'd like to do this kind of motorbike,
sunny day,
dry road with walls of snow either side thing. *I'd always imagined,
that
after the lifts close down in val d'Isere they run a snow plough over
the
top, though as it sometimes snows right through to May/June I guess
it's not really like that. *Any ideas on fixed dates for opening the
Col
d'Iseran, or ideas where freshly opened high passes might be the first
couple of weeks in may (within 3 hours of Geneva).


Cheers.
Iain.


Iain

I've not ridden this route (though I'm tempted this year) but I drove it
in an open-top car a few years ago. I can recommend it.

A very good resource iswww.alpineroads.com

Rob


All I can tell you is it sure won't be open yet - we've got about 3
metres depth of snow at 3000M at the moment, and it just keeps on
coming. Tignes lifts shut on the 11th May this year, so I reckon it'll
be June before the passes are reliable. I might be completely wrong
though.

Cheers,

Matt

LittleRob April 20th 08 08:24 AM

Pass opening dates/Col d'Iseran
 
Matt T wrote:
On 19 Apr, 13:46, LittleRob wrote:
wrote:
Off topic, but it's quiet... I'd like to do this kind of motorbike,
sunny day,
dry road with walls of snow either side thing. I'd always imagined,
that
after the lifts close down in val d'Isere they run a snow plough over
the
top, though as it sometimes snows right through to May/June I guess
it's not really like that. Any ideas on fixed dates for opening the
Col
d'Iseran, or ideas where freshly opened high passes might be the first
couple of weeks in may (within 3 hours of Geneva).
Cheers.
Iain.

Iain

I've not ridden this route (though I'm tempted this year) but I drove it
in an open-top car a few years ago. I can recommend it.

A very good resource iswww.alpineroads.com

Rob


All I can tell you is it sure won't be open yet - we've got about 3
metres depth of snow at 3000M at the moment, and it just keeps on
coming. Tignes lifts shut on the 11th May this year, so I reckon it'll
be June before the passes are reliable. I might be completely wrong
though.

Cheers,

Matt


Matt

From memory its open about July-October. We went the 2nd week of
September, but the problem by then was that France had pretty much
"closed" after the Summer season. There was only a single restaurant in
Val d'Isere open. Fortunately we were only staying 1 night, but we met a
couple who were there for 3 or 4 days!

Rob

Matt T April 20th 08 10:33 AM

Pass opening dates/Col d'Iseran
 
On 20 Apr, 09:24, LittleRob wrote:
Matt T wrote:
On 19 Apr, 13:46, LittleRob wrote:
wrote:
Off topic, but it's quiet... *I'd like to do this kind of motorbike,
sunny day,
dry road with walls of snow either side thing. *I'd always imagined,
that
after the lifts close down in val d'Isere they run a snow plough over
the
top, though as it sometimes snows right through to May/June I guess
it's not really like that. *Any ideas on fixed dates for opening the
Col
d'Iseran, or ideas where freshly opened high passes might be the first
couple of weeks in may (within 3 hours of Geneva).
Cheers.
Iain.
Iain


I've not ridden this route (though I'm tempted this year) but I drove it
in an open-top car a few years ago. I can recommend it.


A very good resource iswww.alpineroads.com


Rob


All I can tell you is it sure won't be open yet - we've got about 3
metres depth of snow at 3000M at the moment, and it just keeps on
coming. Tignes lifts shut on the 11th May this year, so I reckon it'll
be June before the passes are reliable. I might be completely wrong
though.


Cheers,


Matt


Matt

*From memory its open about July-October. We went the 2nd week of
September, but the problem by then was that France had pretty much
"closed" after the Summer season. There was only a single restaurant in
Val d'Isere open. Fortunately we were only staying 1 night, but we met a
couple who were there for 3 or 4 days!

Rob- Hide quoted text -

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That makes sense - I've seen snow up here in August, so I guess it's a
pretty limited window. I don't know what the col de petit st bernard
opening times are like, but probably similar.

I've been in Tignes a couple of times in September - I wouldn't
recommend it!

Matt

@elgy(nati-spam).org.uk April 21st 08 12:53 PM

Pass opening dates/Col d'Iseran
 
Matt T wrote:
On 20 Apr, 09:24, LittleRob wrote:

Matt T wrote:

On 19 Apr, 13:46, LittleRob wrote:

wrote:

Off topic, but it's quiet... I'd like to do this kind of motorbike,
sunny day,
dry road with walls of snow either side thing. I'd always imagined,
that
after the lifts close down in val d'Isere they run a snow plough over
the
top, though as it sometimes snows right through to May/June I guess
it's not really like that. Any ideas on fixed dates for opening the
Col
d'Iseran, or ideas where freshly opened high passes might be the first
couple of weeks in may (within 3 hours of Geneva).
Cheers.
Iain.

Iain


I've not ridden this route (though I'm tempted this year) but I drove it
in an open-top car a few years ago. I can recommend it.


A very good resource iswww.alpineroads.com


Rob


All I can tell you is it sure won't be open yet - we've got about 3
metres depth of snow at 3000M at the moment, and it just keeps on
coming. Tignes lifts shut on the 11th May this year, so I reckon it'll
be June before the passes are reliable. I might be completely wrong
though.


Cheers,


Matt


Matt

From memory its open about July-October. We went the 2nd week of
September, but the problem by then was that France had pretty much
"closed" after the Summer season. There was only a single restaurant in
Val d'Isere open. Fortunately we were only staying 1 night, but we met a
couple who were there for 3 or 4 days!

Rob- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -



That makes sense - I've seen snow up here in August, so I guess it's a
pretty limited window. I don't know what the col de petit st bernard
opening times are like, but probably similar.

I've been in Tignes a couple of times in September - I wouldn't
recommend it!

Matt

There are no fixed dates and it can be very late in the season when the
Col opens. It may open in late June, but it will almost certainly be
closed in early June. It has been known to be closed in July - it
depends upon the weather. The Petit st Bernard opens a little earlier.

I did ride my bike over it one summer, but cannot recall it being
anything special. The Galibier is much better. It was a long time ago
and IIRC we went from the Mauriene via Valloire, Briancon, over the
Montgeneve pass then back into the upper Mauriene valley over either the
Cenis or the Frejus passes, up and over the Col Iserian then via the
Cormet de Roseland to Annecy. I was riding a BSA A65 at the time, which
was great for thundering up the passes but it really tested the brakes
on the way down and hauling it around hairpin after hairpin got tiring
in the end.

BTW the scenery on the Bonneval sur Arc side is better than the Val
d'Isere side.

John

Roger Moss[_2_] April 21st 08 12:56 PM

Pass opening dates/Col d'Iseran
 

"Matt T" wrote in message
...
On 20 Apr, 09:24, LittleRob wrote:
Matt T wrote:
On 19 Apr, 13:46, LittleRob wrote:
wrote:
Off topic, but it's quiet... I'd like to do this kind of motorbike,
sunny day,
dry road with walls of snow either side thing. I'd always imagined,
that
after the lifts close down in val d'Isere they run a snow plough over
the
top, though as it sometimes snows right through to May/June I guess
it's not really like that. Any ideas on fixed dates for opening the
Col
d'Iseran, or ideas where freshly opened high passes might be the first
couple of weeks in may (within 3 hours of Geneva).
Cheers.
Iain.
Iain


I've not ridden this route (though I'm tempted this year) but I drove
it
in an open-top car a few years ago. I can recommend it.


A very good resource iswww.alpineroads.com


Rob


All I can tell you is it sure won't be open yet - we've got about 3
metres depth of snow at 3000M at the moment, and it just keeps on
coming. Tignes lifts shut on the 11th May this year, so I reckon it'll
be June before the passes are reliable. I might be completely wrong
though.


Cheers,


Matt


The Col de l'Iseran is 'usually' open from late May/early June, but with
this year's exceptional late snowfalls who knows?

The Col (and the whole of the Route des Grandes Alpes) is an amazing drive,
roadside piste-markers and all.
Our experiences in late October, trying to beat the Col closures due to the
first snowfalls :
http://www.mountainpassions.com/summ...es_alpes_1.htm - Lac
Léman to the Beaufortain
http://www.mountainpassions.com/summ...es_alpes_2.htm - The
Beaufortain to Briançon.
http://www.mountainpassions.com/summ...es_alpes_3.htm -
Briançon to the Vallée de l'Ubaye
http://www.mountainpassions.com/summ...es_alpes_4.htm - Col de
la Cayolle to Menton

Enjoy - we did, and we'll certainly do it again...

RM


Champ April 21st 08 02:31 PM

Pass opening dates/Col d'Iseran
 
On Fri, 18 Apr 2008 14:46:04 -0700 (PDT),
wrote:

Off topic, but it's quiet... I'd like to do this kind of motorbike, sunny day,
dry road with walls of snow either side thing. I'd always imagined, that
after the lifts close down in val d'Isere they run a snow plough over the
top, though as it sometimes snows right through to May/June I guess
it's not really like that. Any ideas on fixed dates for opening the Col
d'Iseran, or ideas where freshly opened high passes might be the first
couple of weeks in may (within 3 hours of Geneva).


I can confirm that it's not open in mid-June:
http://www.champ.org.uk/bikes/images/mugellosnow.jpg

This was on the way back from the Italian GP at Mugello in 2001.
--
Champ
neal at champ dot org dot uk

john elgy April 21st 08 07:14 PM

Pass opening dates/Col d'Iseran
 
Champ wrote:
On Fri, 18 Apr 2008 14:46:04 -0700 (PDT),
wrote:


Off topic, but it's quiet... I'd like to do this kind of motorbike, sunny day,
dry road with walls of snow either side thing. I'd always imagined, that
after the lifts close down in val d'Isere they run a snow plough over the
top, though as it sometimes snows right through to May/June I guess
it's not really like that. Any ideas on fixed dates for opening the Col
d'Iseran, or ideas where freshly opened high passes might be the first
couple of weeks in may (within 3 hours of Geneva).



I can confirm that it's not open in mid-June:
http://www.champ.org.uk/bikes/images/mugellosnow.jpg

This was on the way back from the Italian GP at Mugello in 2001.



Great photo. Wasn't the barrier lowered at the bottom of the pass?

Colin Irvine[_3_] April 21st 08 09:50 PM

Pass opening dates/Col d'Iseran
 
On Mon, 21 Apr 2008 15:31:50 +0100, Champ squeezed
out the following:

On Fri, 18 Apr 2008 14:46:04 -0700 (PDT),
wrote:

Off topic, but it's quiet... I'd like to do this kind of motorbike, sunny day,
dry road with walls of snow either side thing. I'd always imagined, that
after the lifts close down in val d'Isere they run a snow plough over the
top, though as it sometimes snows right through to May/June I guess
it's not really like that. Any ideas on fixed dates for opening the Col
d'Iseran, or ideas where freshly opened high passes might be the first
couple of weeks in may (within 3 hours of Geneva).


I can confirm that it's not open in mid-June:
http://www.champ.org.uk/bikes/images/mugellosnow.jpg

This was on the way back from the Italian GP at Mugello in 2001.


Nice!

--
Colin Irvine


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